[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by pauld315

So, is the proper protocol for a walker on an MMP to walk facing traffic like it is on a regular road ?

Were we all not taught to "walk on the left facing traffic" in kindergarten?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by suesiegel

You are aware of the road. You are aware of other people in the world.

I for one am glad the snow birds are gone.

For bike riders and walkers the tunnels are particularly dangerous. The lighting is not great and there is no room to safely swing around you. I've seen too many people doing this in dark clothes-totally unaware

What does this have to do with the topic?

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Were we all not taught to "walk on the left facing traffic" in kindergarten?

I have encountered a number of walkers who apparently didn't learn to walk facing traffic and they are often wearing dark clothing.

[BogeyBoy]

Originally Posted by justjim

I have encountered a number of walkers who apparently didn't learn to walk facing traffic and they are often wearing dark clothing.

Well, you can't fix stupid.

[capecoralbill]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Blame it on those who planned, designed, and built the MMP's . Converging golf carts, bicycles, walkers all on the same path increases the risk of an accident. I'll let the experts give it the % of increase to risk

I'm surprised Morgan and Morgan don't own this place, they will be my first phone call. This place is an accident waiting to happen.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by suesiegel

I for one am glad the snow birds are gone.

That is a strange comment on this Thread.
Obviously bad behavior on MMPs can't be blamed on snowbirds!

[TheDude]

Thank you for this thread so I can SET EVERYONE STRAIGHT.
Who has the right of way:
The answer is no one! The law only says who must yield (give up) the right-of-way. Every driver, motorcyclist, moped rider, bicyclist and pedestrian must do everything possible to avoid a crash. You must yield the right-of-way to all other traffic and pedestrians at stop signs.

Its chapter 3 of the Florida Driver's handbook.

So, if people have a bike with mirrors, etc, and see a problem, get off the road and stop. Stand you ground and you end up in the ER, and then go to court and lose because you can't prove you did everything possible to get out of the way, well, some of us may have the money and healthcare for the loss, but many don't. For me, I don't want new knees.

Just use common sense. You don't know if the people in the carts just had a mini stroke. Protect yourself.

So, haters hate. But that is the Florida Law.

[TheDude]

I want to add, I have yet seen a bicyclist stop at a path stop sign? Are you better than everyone else? Is there a law that people on bike's do not need to stop. Don't believe me, when you all drive in your carts, watch the bicyclist. Really, I have NEVER seen one stop.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by TheDude

I want to add, I have yet seen a bicyclist stop at a path stop sign? Are you better than everyone else? Is there a law that people on bike's do not need to stop. Don't believe me, when you all drive in your carts, watch the bicyclist. Really, I have NEVER seen one stop.

Yep. Cyclists in their toe clips and all are typically careful but rarely stop.

Of course this touches on a pet peeve of mine...how many golf carts do you see stop at the path stop signs? Not just slow down but come to a complete stop? I'd say about the same as the number of cars that fully stop at street stop signs. Almost none. So unless it's done with reckless disregard for safety, imho it's not a big deal.

[TheDude]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Yep. Cyclists in their toe clips and all are typically careful but rarely stop.

Of course this touches on a pet peeve of mine...how many golf carts do you see stop at the path stop signs? Not just slow down but come to a complete stop? I'd say about the same as the number of cars that fully stop at street stop signs. Almost none. So unless it's done with reckless disregard for safety, imho it's not a big deal.

It may be true, but speaking for me, I make it a point to stop completely. If you saw me, you would see I also look left then right before processing. So, almost none, maybe, but me... 100% of the time. I'm the person who usually slows down and waves at people on bikes and walkers also. We are in TV, happiest place on Earth (or is that Disney?).

[cquick]

Originally Posted by Blessed2BNTV

This afternoon while hubby and I were riding our bikes on the MMP at Palmer, a guy in a golf cart went to pass us. He got about a foot from me.

My husband walks on the path from Hillsborough to the fire station on Buena Vista. He walks facing the traffic. He has told me there is one man on a golf cart who is also on the path who actually drives toward him. He says it's happened several times.

I don't understand why anyone would purposely try to intimidate someone walking. ??????????

[cquick]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Blame it on those who planned, designed, and built the MMP's . Converging golf carts, bicycles, walkers all on the same path increases the risk of an accident. I'll let the experts give it the % of increase to risk

well, I am glad we have them. Notice how dangerous it is to bike, walk, or drive a golf cart going north of 466 along Morse Blvd. No consideration for people.

[pauld315]

Originally Posted by cquick

My husband walks on the path from Hillsborough to the fire station on Buena Vista. He walks facing the traffic. He has told me there is one man on a golf cart who is also on the path who actually drives toward him. He says it's happened several times.

I don't understand why anyone would purposely try to intimidate someone walking. ??????????

Some people are just asses. I walk a lot and have seen it all. I guarantee you though this guy wouldn't do it more than once to me.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

how many golf carts do you see stop at the path stop signs?

Since we do not have a golf cart, I have no idea how many carts stop at the stop signs along the MMPs.

However, when the cart path crosses the roads where I drive, like at the gates or when I turn into the Sarasota parking lot, the cart drivers stop every single time.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Since we do not have a golf cart, I have no idea how many carts stop at the stop signs along the MMPs.

However, when the cart path crosses the roads where I drive, like at the gates or when I turn into the Sarasota parking lot, the cart drivers stop every single time.

100% stop? Not just a slow-down to a near-stop? Every single time?

With all due respect, I have my doubts.