[airstreamingypsy]

I made a comment before I want to delete, I hit the Edit/Delete box but it only allows me to edit.... so I'm writing this to get rid of the comment. How does one simply delete?

[Lancer]

Originally Posted by Laker14

the USGA? Really? Pace-of-play issues and guidelines are generally handled by the individual clubs, not the USGA. I'd be interested in looking at any USGA sourced link you have on this issue.

Rule 5.6b
b. Prompt Pace of Play
A round of golf is meant to be played at a prompt pace.
Your pace of play is likely to affect how long it will take other players to play their rounds, including both those in your group and those in following groups. You are encouraged to allow faster groups to play through.

[jercoppola]

Originally Posted by advp007

I had an interesting encounter with an Ambassador today. Our group of 3 let a single play through. Three holes later we were told this is against the rules. The reason she gave was that it messed up their bookkeeping as they didn’t know who was where. Apparently it is more important to keep their bookkeeping straight than to allow a single to play through. Anyone else have this happen to them?

That indeed is the "Village's Rule". Common courtesy and golf ethics tells us you did do the correct thing, but you must remember you are golfing in the bubble. To be honest after awhile you just except this as normal, much like what is sadly happening in America

[Snprentice]

How does 1 person or a twosome get a t time in TV? Very unlikely this happening, especially this time of year. I understand the courtesy of letting someone play through, but if course is full, everyone will be waiting so why do it? Play as fast as you can and enjoy the game.

[MSchad]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

I made a comment before I want to delete, I hit the Edit/Delete box but it only allows me to edit.... so I'm writing this to get rid of the comment. How does one simply delete?

No simple delete function. Edit and delete everything out and put 3 ///

[Speedie]

Originally Posted by jedalton

dead wrong again, as a current ambassador, we can make a player or group skip a hole.

I like the word “make”
Sounds like the power has taken over

[PPLEPEU]

Originally Posted by jercoppola

That indeed is the "Village's Rule". Common courtesy and golf ethics tells us you did do the correct thing, but you must remember you are golfing in the bubble. To be honest after awhile you just except this as normal, much like what is sadly happening in America

Where can one go to see the list of “Village’s Rules” for golf?

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You need to get out more and pay more attention to the Rules of Golf. A "Single" has the same standing as a Foursome or any other group, per the USGA.

Originally Posted by Laker14

the USGA? Really? Pace-of-play issues and guidelines are generally handled by the individual clubs, not the USGA. I'd be interested in looking at any USGA sourced link you have on this issue.

Originally Posted by Lancer

Rule 5.6b
b. Prompt Pace of Play
A round of golf is meant to be played at a prompt pace.
Your pace of play is likely to affect how long it will take other players to play their rounds, including both those in your group and those in following groups. You are encouraged to allow faster groups to play through.

Lancer, thanks for the link. Although the passage is found in the "rule" book, I wouldn't consider it a "rule"...just a vague reference. No set time is specified, nor any penalty for violation.

[Dilligas]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

They like to keep track of who is on what hole. That is why they ask your "cart color" when you check in. Theoretically, it helps control "pace of play"... Theoretically...

Unfortunately some ambassadors only learned about the time quotes on the cards rather than determining the reasons for groups being behind. We had a large group of 6 foursomes playing and the first group was forced to wait on every hole. Consequently the entire group was waiting on every hole and the ambassador decided to notify the 5th of our group that they were behind and to pick it up or skip a hole.....even though they were on the heals of the group in front of them. Rules and Common Sense are required to do the job effectively.

[Laker14]

I think that things work pretty well here in TV, when it comes to golf, on the executives as well as the championship courses. My experiences with employees (behind the cash registers, at the starter shacks, and the ambassadors) have been almost all positive experiences. For every hundred pleasant exchanges, I've had maybe one unpleasant one. Generally, they seem to understand that the object is for golfers to enjoy themselves.
Given the number of golfers we have, and the generally packed conditions, and the feeling of entitlement and self-importance that many customers bring with them, I think they do a really good job of trying to keep things moving without being confrontational.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You need to read UPDATED Rules of Golf. The statement you quoted, hasn't appeared in the Rules of Golf for at least 15 years. It's been modified at least twice, since.

Playing through: The rule that everyone ignores - National Club Golfer

I'm not disputing whether Clubs have the right to discourage folks from allowing slower groups to allow players to "play through", clubs can do whatever they wish. I was merely correcting those who claim "Singles have no standing" on the golf course. That's simply wrong and harkens back to the Rules of Golf adopted in 1899 ... this is a new day.

My apologies. I thought I had clearly stated in the English language that you were correct in that the rules were modified in 2004 and then clarified again subsequently. Let me check that again---oh, yeah, there it is in ENGLISH. Sorry for the confusion

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life

The rules have a reason the ambassadors do a wonderful job if you don’t like it you can play off property is plenty of courses outside the Villages!!!

Ambassadors do a good job. However, personally, feel this rule makes no sense. Other reasons to play outside TV. Went to Spruce Creek and paid $17.00 less(am a priority member) and played on overseaded (real) grass instead of the food colored grass in TV. Came home without green stains on my Titleists.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by PPLEPEU

Where can one go to see the list of “Village’s Rules” for golf?

Golf The Villages

[RUOK2?]

Originally Posted by jedalton

dead wrong again, as a current ambassador, we can make a player or group skip a hole.

How exactly does an 'ambassador' force a resident to do anything?
Do they call law enforcement to remove players from the course?
Do they, like pool monitors, for example,, produce their ID to confirm that they have the authority which they claim?
Is a resident entitled to ask. "Sorry, I don't recognize you. Can I see your ID?
And then "Yes, your ID is the same as mine. Where does it say that you're a monitor/ambassador."
Of course, a video of any officious encounter usually provokes an indignant outburst, which is good for a laugh later, which appeals to my juvenile sense of humor.

[Tom M]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Golf The Villages

Wow, I thought you had solved the issue by pointing out the written Village rules that nobody is allowed to play through. Alas, I could not find that anywhere in the Villages local golf rules.

I can certainly understand not playing through if the course is full (to just run upon another group), but during slower times if there's an empty hold ahead I see little reason not to allow this. Perhaps this is an opportunity for enhancement of the tracking system.

But in search of a justification of the system, perhaps not allowing players to play through is better than the alternative where many would be complaining that some group in front of them was slow and rude for not letting them play through. Perhaps the system of not allowing is better to avoid conflicts even though it works pretty well everywhere else.