[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Tax revenues.

IMO something different. solve this puzzle, remove every 5th letter to build words, eoiukwertiqqwdcbngtkbweeboperaqcfrcerdtk and my guess will be revealed.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm curious to learn what all those neighbors think about the situation, if the owner of the property tells the bank to just keep it - and they abandon it to overgrowth and rodents.

They've already stated they have zero intention of maintaining it as an equestrian venue. They wanted to put in affordable housing for families. I doubt anyone else will want to buy it, especially any developer if they already know in advance that it ain't gonna happen.

If my post is comprehended correctly, one would notice I have no problems with low income housing. I said the density is ridiculous... IMHO, and indicated I doubted the prices on the proposed property of manufactured homes would be cheap. They will probably be quite expensive for low income purchasers not to mention the monthly lot rental fee.

I'm all for low income housing, particularly when it's so difficult to make ends meet for so many these days. Does that mean those residents need to be crammed into an area without enough Drs. to serve them? Just MHO.

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

The Town Commission Voted No for the annexation of Grand Oaks.

To the Nay-Sayers: You Can Fight For What You Believe In and have a win.

Congrats to them. The fundamental change to sweet little towns under the farce of "affordable housing" is a cancer. Glad that little area got some chemo.

Look at the monstrocity on Powell Road behind the soon to be WaWA... what, maybe a hundred duplex homes 5 ft apart called rental homes. For how many $kk month?? Want to raise kids there? A kid's snot couldn't miss your neighbor if they sneeze!

That is no way to raise kids. Low income families deserve houses to live in. With yards and safe places for kids to play OUTSIDE - remember how we got to play outside 50 years ago?? How about we Make HOUSES Affordable Again!!

Take a look (oh wait its a gated just drive by it will be enough to make you ill) at those disgusting tiny home duplexes crammed in that are less than a regular sized duplexes and tell me I'm wrong! If you took a Villages Villa and put up a wall in the middle it would be bigger than those duplexes.

Commissioners need to be voted out that are taking federal $$ and lining developer pockets. Over crowding and straining resources for small towns. It's disgusting and they think people are stupid to their $$$ in pocket plans.

A win for the little guys!! Good for them!!

[Ponygirl]

The area of Grand Oaks was zoned as a rural protection area and by Lady Lake annexing the acreage the land would no longer protected and could be developed

Many conservation organizations were fighting the annexation That annexation technique is a way to bypass rural protection areas goal of conserving land in delicate areas

If you want more info Lake County Conservation Council members work hard to keep land in conservation status. There are always areas of concern in Lake County

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Ponygirl

The area of Grand Oaks was zoned as a rural protection area and by Lady Lake annexing the acreage the land would no longer protected and could be developed

Many conservation organizations were fighting the annexation That annexation technique is a way to bypass rural protection areas goal of conserving land in delicate areas

If you want more info Lake County Conservation Council members work hard to keep land in conservation status. There are always areas of concern in Lake County

Funny how not concerned around villages. Grand oaks pretty far away from lady lake. Didn’t mind all development up 466. Same thing goes on in Marion county. One developer can expand while another can’t build on land they brought.

[Sgt Ed]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Why does some developers get special treatment and some don’t?

MONEY plain and simple!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Why does some developers get special treatment and some don’t?

Money talks

[Teemotay]

Originally Posted by Ponygirl

The area of Grand Oaks was zoned as a rural protection area and by Lady Lake annexing the acreage the land would no longer protected and could be developed

Many conservation organizations were fighting the annexation That annexation technique is a way to bypass rural protection areas goal of conserving land in delicate areas

If you want more info Lake County Conservation Council members work hard to keep land in conservation status. There are always areas of concern in Lake County

You are right on! That’s why we need to have the same people that spoke out against the Grand Oaks expansion to speak out against the proposed Harbor Hills expansion. This will negatively impact sensitive wetlands near Lake Griffin and impact the same neighborhoods as the Grand Oaks proposal.
There was a hearing scheduled for the HH proposal but it has been postponed. I’m sure they’ll make another run at it. I believe it was adding several hundred more homesites.

[Normal]

Ask yourself, do we really need more housing in the area? MLS inventory is setting new records daily here. Apartment complexes are exploding across the area. Rental prices are crashing and the developer is still building. All this while less people are moving to Florida. You would be ruining a nice natural area for what? I’m glad it was denied.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Why does some developers get special treatment and some don’t?

Hummm. that's a very good question, let's see if we can collectively figure that one out. Who wants to guess first, LOL ! ?

[Ponygirl]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Funny how not concerned around villages. Grand oaks pretty far away from lady lake. Didn’t mind all development up 466. Same thing goes on in Marion county. One developer can expand while another can’t build on land they brought.

Actually Grand Oaks is not far from the lady lakes part of the villages.

When traveling on Avenida past Spanish Springs continue across Rt 27 (not sure the name of the road) Go past Circle K and the post office and turn left at the big intersection perhaps a mile Grand Oaks is maybe a quarter of a mile on the right Apologize in advance for not knowing the true distances

[ton80]

Originally Posted by Ponygirl

Actually Grand Oaks is not far from the lady lakes part of the villages.

When traveling on Avenida past Spanish Springs continue across Rt 27 (not sure the name of the road) Go past Circle K and the post office and turn left at the big intersection perhaps a mile Grand Oaks is maybe a quarter of a mile on the right Apologize in advance for not knowing the true distances

I believe that Grand Oaks Request for Annexation failed primarily is that GOR is not Contiguous to Lady Lake. One of the prime requisites for annexation is that the proposed plot to be annexed is contiguous with the annexing incorporated entity. Check on Google many quotes.
The GOR opponents lawyer pointed this out to Lady Lakes Council that non contiguous annexations are very rare in Florida.

Also trying to supply water and sewage treatment via non Lady Lake areas would be complex and expensive

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

IMO something different. solve this puzzle, remove every 5th letter to build words, eoiukwertiqqwdcbngtkbweeboperaqcfrcerdtk and my guess will be revealed.

I only needed the first letter

Money is what matters...For example, compare/contrast Debbie Road and Lake Denham Drive for "revenue enhancement".

[MorTech]

Low income housing, on net, tend to be taxtakers rather than taxpayers. This is discouraging to local governments cuz it eats into their retirement accounts...errr...Budgets.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Low income housing, on net, tend to be taxtakers rather than taxpayers. This is discouraging to local governments cuz it eats into their retirement accounts...errr...Budgets.

Annnnnd for the folks in back who were too busy on their cell phones to pay attention the first two times:

LOW INCOME HOUSING IS NOT THE SAME THING AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

Affordable housing provides people starting out in their careers (such as medical professionals who've completed their internships, certifications, doctorates, etc, and now have a craptastic amount of loans to start paying back) the opportunity to live closer to where they work. That means they'll be paying taxes on these properties, paying taxes whenever they go to OUR restaurants, paying taxes on anything else that involves taxes, spending money to contribute to the continued and future success of all kinds of other businesses, keeping the accountants employed, maybe even BEING the accountants, and so on and so forth.

These won't be people living on welfare checks and section 8 housing. They'll be the younger people who support the Villages. There aren't enough nurses or doctors to staff the hospital or nursing facilities in The Villages. Do you want some 80-year-old attendant who is physically incapable of getting you from your wheelchair to your bed if you need an overnight stay in the hospital, because that's the best you can get within a half hour drive, willing to work for only $18/hour? Or would you be overjoyed knowing that your attendant is the 28-year-old husband of a gal who finished her residency at NYU last year and the good doctor moved her family south, but wanted to be closer to the Regional/Spanish Plaines/Whatever hospital than what she'd get in Middleton, at half the price?

You might not remember that the hospital actually put a bounty out for new doctors last year. They offered a reward to anyone who could refer one that got hired and stuck around. That's how bad it is. We need "affordable" (NOT LOW INCOME - it means something different) family homes that aren't owned or developed by The Villages.

Weirsdale is in Marion County. Grand Oaks is in Weirsdale, and should appeal to Marion County for services that allow for MODEST development that preserves the rural atmosphere while allowing for family housing and modest amenities (a couple of pools, rec center/meeting hall, luncheonette, and maybe a commissary/canteen). Maybe have a community garden where people can grow vegetables and have communal harvesting/sharing to save money and support that whole idea of rural living.