[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Windguy

I suspect you aren’t aware of it, but that statement comes across (to me, anyway) as really condescending. It’s like you are saying you are the wise, all-knowing one and the target of your insult is an uneducated fool. I would be really offended if you said that to me. Maybe others think I’m overreacting. I’m curious to know if I am the only one who feels this way.

And, yes, I know where that line came from.

I’m sorry for hijacking this thread.

Probably because you haven't been here long enough to know the people on here. Patience Grasshopper from Bogie is almost a signature line plus it's the truth. And those that have been here a long time, have significantly more experience with how things are done here and have been involved with the politics of TV are wiser than those that have less of any of that. It's not condescending, just a fact.

[tophcfa]

As others have already pointed out, there doesn’t appear to be adequate room for the developers plans without eliminating some or all of the Championship golf at Hacienda Hills. I for one will be extremely upset if they add apartment type housing, that has access to already overcrowded amenities, all while reducing the available Championship golfing holes. The number of Championship golf holes relative to the number of Villages residents has been on a steady decline for several years already. We specifically bought our home in a location that had easy access to several Championship golf courses, including Hacienda. I don’t want to jump to conclusions before things actually happen, but this does not pass the initial smell test.

[Doro22]

Originally Posted by odyboys7

Yep. What ever makes more money for the family (you know who) and less of what we might like. More floors more apartments more money.

I believe “The Developer” saw a need for apartment style living after the huge response at the Lofts at Brownwood. They are allowed to make their profits. After all they are the ones risking their capital on the venture. I just wish I had the disposable resources to do the same.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by KRM0614

Build more houses clear the area and charge the residents for everything

And you are getting charged how?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by JoMar

And you are getting charged how?

Wondering why people feel they are being gyped all the time?

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by odyboys7

Yep. What ever makes more money for the family (you know who) and less of what we might like. More floors more apartments more money.

Not sure what your point might be.....you have invested zero dollars in the building of TV, you took exactly zero risk in the building of TV, you pay a minimal amount for the fun things to do here that somebody else invested in the building of TV, you made an investment that you or you kids will make a profit on when you move or die yet you give grief to the Developer because he doesn't give you what you like and condemn his ability to make money. Why are you here?

[maryrusso]

The developer is suggesting changing to another housing plan--sounds like another apartment complex. The family promises to build a pool, trails, ... that certainly sounds like preparation for a big housing change. And, they want to retain ownership of those recreation amenities. Stop it now or you will have a massive complex like in Brownwood.

[mcwood4d]

The apartments may not be popular due to density but snowbirds will love the option. Apartments (or condos) are much easier to manage from "away".

[Topspinmo]

I told you all apartments months ago, once The developers pushed off apartments in district 13 and was able to keep the amenities fee’s you’ll see apartments popping up everywhere. Cheaper to build up with more profit than out. I predict one day polo fields, Lopez, glenview, and empty acres along CR42 will all be apartments. If district’s allow this AGAIN no stopping it.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Doro22

I believe “The Developer” saw a need for apartment style living after the huge response at the Lofts at Brownwood. They are allowed to make their profits. After all they are the ones risking their capital on the venture. I just wish I had the disposable resources to do the same.

But, they shouldn’t be allowed to take amenities fee’s from the district they are over crowding in already over crowded area.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Singerlady

See the Local News section of paper today - 8/7, page 1. Told ya so.....THEY knew what they were going to do and NOW they’ve told us their proposal. Nix it, I say! Doesn’t help us. Helps the Developer only. Hmmm....

what about a villager who doesn’t want to take care of a big house, but is still healthy to live on his own, I hope they build more of these type of adults only apartments, and adding a restaurant , pool , whatever is a nice idea . I think some posters would rather see a vacant lot , so they could keep complaining that the family never does anything for them .yes the family is about making money , but to do that they have to make people happy and for 20 years in 5 different homes they have made me very happy

[LuvtheVillages]

Originally Posted by maryrusso

The developer is suggesting changing to another housing plan--sounds like another apartment complex. The family promises to build a pool, trails, ... that certainly sounds like preparation for a big housing change. And, they want to retain ownership of those recreation amenities. Stop it now or you will have a massive complex like in Brownwood.

Since The Developer will retain ownership of these new amenities, there is nothing to stop him from charging admission. After all, this facility will not be supported by our amenity fee. The Champion golf courses are run for profit. This could be also.

There are so many unknowns in this proposal. I hope the AAC takes a long time to do their due diligence. I hope they spend a lot of time thinking about all the "what if's", and do not take the Developer's word without some way to back it up. I hope they have a lawyer who is independent from the Developer and from the Spanish Springs CDD.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Invested when he brought into the life style. NOT everybody makes profit when the sell. Gees’ lay off the koolaid.

Everyone that I know, who have been here since the mid 2000's have made a profit when they sold. Some on their 4th house. When the kids sell it may be a loss because they want to get rid of it and it's all profit to them. Those that let their properties deteriorate, or have neighbors with less than desirable properties might have issues selling but most make a profit. If you know people that haven't then you need to dig deeper into why. The koolaid is not a bad thing for those that enjoy this place.....for those that constantly tear it down it must be a horrible life here. Your recourse is your CDD or write letters to the District or Developer and be prepared for them not to listen. Have glass of Kool Aid and you might be a happier person.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Everyone that I know, who have been here since the mid 2000's have made a profit when they sold. Some on their 4th house. When the kids sell it may be a loss because they want to get rid of it and it's all profit to them. Those that let their properties deteriorate, or have neighbors with less than desirable properties might have issues selling but most make a profit. If you know people that haven't then you need to dig deeper into why. The koolaid is not a bad thing for those that enjoy this place.....for those that constantly tear it down it must be a horrible life here. Your recourse is your CDD or write letters to the District or Developer and be prepared for them not to listen. Have glass of Kool Aid and you might be a happier person.

EXCELLENT POST. I watch how much houses sell for carefully. You are completely right. P.S. I am not a realtor and I am not a person who owns more than one house. I just love a good stable investment to live in and enjoy and pass on a little for the kids who will watch over our Helene when we go.

[Stu from NYC]

Just back from food shopping with the scoop.

According to the cashier at sams who heard this from her husband who got this from the fellow who collects the trash they will be building an area for demolition derby.