[bagboy]

To the original theft, I was taught that if it isn't "ours", it's "theirs" and you leave it alone. The person who took the handicap placard clearly has a character deficiency, and that can't be detected any more than a physical handicap can be with just one look.

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by dbussone

FL provides 2 placards. We keep one in our car (or my wife's purse if she is going out). The other is taped to the inside of our golf cart lower windshield for exactly the reason noted by the OP.

when I picked up mine they gave me 2 placards and the dmv agent said if one goes in the cart to tape it to the windshield as they get stolen.
I hope there is a special place in hell for these people that would steal a handicap placard.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Your concept of "handicapped" is somewhat archaic. My wife frequently uses a walker - she has MS. If she doesn't, she is capable of walking short distances. She can likely get from a handicapped space to a grocery basket, but not from a space out in the lower 40.

You seem to have a negative view on lots of issue. Try smiling once in awhile.

On the nose.

[NYGUY]

Originally Posted by dbussone

FL provides 2 placards. We keep one in our car (or my wife's purse if she is going out). The other is taped to the inside of our golf cart lower windshield for exactly the reason noted by the OP.

The Florida Motor Vehicle website indicates a second placard is only issued for 2 purposes as follows:

An additional permit may be issued to a disabled person who qualifies as a frequent traveler or as a quadriplegic as follows:

A frequent traveler must indicate on the application form that they frequently travel by plane, train, bus or boat and need one permit to park their vehicle at the place of departure and another one to use at their destination.

[KeepingItReal]

While some conditions are more obvious than others we all know these permits are abused and used improperly just like any other benefit. What is really sad is when a person that really needs a spot cannot get one because they are all filled by people that could well do without them.

Law changes for disabled parking permit holders!

Effective July 1, 2012: Any person that loses or has their disabled parking permit stolen must provide form HSMV 83039, Application For Disabled Person Parking Permit, completed and signed by their certifying authority within the last 12 months. Once completed, take this form to the local county tax collector office or license plate agency for replacement.

Effective October 1, 2012: Any person renewing their disabled parking permit must have current certification. Before a disabled parking permit can be renewed, the permit-holder must provide form HSMV 83039, Application For Disabled Person Parking Permit, completed and signed by their certifying authority within the last 12 months. Once completed, take form to the local county tax collector office or tag agency for replacement.

[Floridagal]

I have a handicap license plate. I do not use a walker or wheelchair, but I have a problem walking and use a cane. But I agree with some of the posters that people are abusing the sticker. It only takes a few to make it bad for everyone else.

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by NYGUY

The Florida Motor Vehicle website indicates a second placard is only issued for 2 purposes as follows:

An additional permit may be issued to a disabled person who qualifies as a frequent traveler or as a quadriplegic as follows:

A frequent traveler must indicate on the application form that they frequently travel by plane, train, bus or boat and need one permit to park their vehicle at the place of departure and another one to use at their destination.

however in the villages dmv you are issued 2 as your golf cart is used as a primary vehicle as well as your car. any question about that you can ask them directly as posting it here won't get you a qualified response.

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by Sable99

I have a handicapped placard in my car for my 91 year old mother. Her placard is for her heart and her hips. She can't walk long distances without a walker and needs a motored cart in a store. I do not park in a handicapped spot unless she is with me.

Florida Statutes:

(4)(a) A vehicle that is transporting a person who has a disability and that has been granted a permit under s. 320.0848(1)(a) may be parked for a maximum of 30 minutes in any parking space reserved for persons who have disabilities.

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Your concept of "handicapped" is somewhat archaic. My wife frequently uses a walker - she has MS. If she doesn't, she is capable of walking short distances. She can likely get from a handicapped space to a grocery basket, but not from a space out in the lower 40.

It all about honor....or the lack of same. You must have one of these conditions to qualify for a handicap parking permit. Many accidents are staged to file a lawsuit, no difference really.

Here is the law:

HSMV 83039 - REV. 08/15

PHYSICIAN/CERTIFYING PRACTITIONER'S STATEMENT OF CERTIFICATION (See Warning Below)
TEMPORARY PERMIT: This is to certify that the applicant named above is a person with a temporary disability (six months or less) that limits or impairs his/her ability to
walk or is temporarily sight impaired. Due to the temporary specific disability(ties) checked below (2-8), the disabled person parking permit should be issued from
__________________________ (date) through ___________________________ (date).
PERMANENT PERMIT: This is to certify that the applicant named above is legally blind or is a disabled person with a permanent disability (ties) that limits or impairs
his/her ability to walk 200 feet without stopping to rest. Specify below (2-8) either legally blind or the specific disability (ties).
DISABILITY TYPE AS DISPLAYED IN FRVIS:

2. Inability to walk without the use of or assistance from a brace, cane, crutch, prosthetic device, or other assistive device, or without assistance of another person. If the
assistive device significantly restores the person's ability to walk to the extent that the person can walk without severe limitation, the person is not eligible for the
exemption parking permit.
3. The need to permanently use a wheelchair.

4. Restriction by lung disease to the extent that the person's forced (respiratory) expiratory volume for 1 second, when measured by spirometry, is less than one liter or
the person's arterial oxygen is less than 60 mm/hg on room air at rest.

5. Use of portable oxygen.

6. Restriction by cardiac condition to the extent that the person's functional limitations are classified in severity as Class III or Class IV according to standards set by the
American Heart Association.

7. Severe limitation in a person's ability to walk due to an arthritic, neurological, or orthopedic condition.

8. Legally Blind (This is the only disability an Optometrist can certify.)

WARNING: Any person who knowingly makes a false or misleading statement in an application or certification under section 320.0848, Florida Statutes, commits a
misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in section 775.082 or 775.083, F.S. The penalty is up to one year in jail or a fine of $1,000 or both.

[big guy]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Maybe its a person who is fed up with seeing non-handicapped persons driving with these placards-like the person I saw driving a bright yellow Ferrari-with handicap tags- or wives shopping with handicapped placards -even though they're not handicapped

A doctor has to do quite a bit of paper work to have a handicap placard issued for a patient. For a couple of reasons, I have trouble walking. SOmetimes I use a cane. I didn't have one last evening when we went to Beef O'Brady's so I lean on my wife. But it's a slippery slope when a total stranger makes a judgement of my, or anyones', degree of disability by what they see. I didn't ask to see ID but I'd be willing to bet my last dime that everyone in Beef O'Brady's was from The Villages last evening. Most were wearing golf shoes, all the same demographic.

[NYGUY]

Originally Posted by looneycat

however in the villages dmv you are issued 2 as your golf cart is used as a primary vehicle as well as your car. any question about that you can ask them directly as posting it here won't get you a qualified response.

Thanks, I didn't know each office could make changes.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

It all about honor....or the lack of same. You must have one of these conditions to qualify for a handicap parking permit. Many accidents are staged to file a lawsuit, no difference really.

Here is the law:

HSMV 83039 - REV. 08/15

PHYSICIAN/CERTIFYING PRACTITIONER'S STATEMENT OF CERTIFICATION (See Warning Below)
TEMPORARY PERMIT: This is to certify that the applicant named above is a person with a temporary disability (six months or less) that limits or impairs his/her ability to
walk or is temporarily sight impaired. Due to the temporary specific disability(ties) checked below (2-8), the disabled person parking permit should be issued from
__________________________ (date) through ___________________________ (date).
PERMANENT PERMIT: This is to certify that the applicant named above is legally blind or is a disabled person with a permanent disability (ties) that limits or impairs
his/her ability to walk 200 feet without stopping to rest. Specify below (2-8) either legally blind or the specific disability (ties).
DISABILITY TYPE AS DISPLAYED IN FRVIS:

2. Inability to walk without the use of or assistance from a brace, cane, crutch, prosthetic device, or other assistive device, or without assistance of another person. If the
assistive device significantly restores the person's ability to walk to the extent that the person can walk without severe limitation, the person is not eligible for the
exemption parking permit.
3. The need to permanently use a wheelchair.

4. Restriction by lung disease to the extent that the person's forced (respiratory) expiratory volume for 1 second, when measured by spirometry, is less than one liter or
the person's arterial oxygen is less than 60 mm/hg on room air at rest.

5. Use of portable oxygen.

6. Restriction by cardiac condition to the extent that the person's functional limitations are classified in severity as Class III or Class IV according to standards set by the
American Heart Association.

7. Severe limitation in a person's ability to walk due to an arthritic, neurological, or orthopedic condition.

8. Legally Blind (This is the only disability an Optometrist can certify.)

WARNING: Any person who knowingly makes a false or misleading statement in an application or certification under section 320.0848, Florida Statutes, commits a
misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in section 775.082 or 775.083, F.S. The penalty is up to one year in jail or a fine of $1,000 or both.

I understand the law, and my RN wife qualifies under #7 above. She has been diagnosed with MS since 1978. So what is your point?

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by NYGUY

The Florida Motor Vehicle website indicates a second placard is only issued for 2 purposes as follows:



An additional permit may be issued to a disabled person who qualifies as a frequent traveler or as a quadriplegic as follows:



A frequent traveler must indicate on the application form that they frequently travel by plane, train, bus or boat and need one permit to park their vehicle at the place of departure and another one to use at their destination.

I prefer not to suggest what you may be implying. If it is what I think I won't go further. And neither should you. I'll leave it at my wife qualifies and has for decades.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by looneycat

when I picked up mine they gave me 2 placards and the dmv agent said if one goes in the cart to tape it to the windshield as they get stolen.

I hope there is a special place in hell for these people that would steal a handicap placard.

And for slugs who question the necessary, lawful, and appropriate use of placards.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Maybe its a person who is fed up with seeing non-handicapped persons driving with these placards-like the person I saw driving a bright yellow Ferrari-with handicap tags- or wives shopping with handicapped placards -even though they're not handicapped

How do you know they aren't handicap ??