[outlaw]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

No, just one. Generally about a foot across and white.

You haven't seen TV water volleyball at Savannah! They use about 20 balls. There is NO time wasted chasing balls.

[Villager Joyce]

Originally Posted by dbussone

You are an idiot, plain and simple. Enough said. When you get an MD and can understand the intricacies of disease you can then earn the right to judge. Until then you should stick to whatever area of expertise you might have. I pray you never need any assistance to live your life.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Callaway Guy

Whoa! Karma can be a bi**h to the person whose Wheaties were pi**ed in and felt the need to diss people using H/C placards. God forbid that person ever need to use one.

We carry one in our car for my mother-in-law; when I'm driving, I'll let her and my wife out at the front door and drive to the "lower 40" to park. When my wife (with a new knee) drives her Mom somewhere, they will use the placard.

I'm usually pretty low-key about most things, but if I see a person parking in a H/C space with no license or placard, I'll call them out; that is one of my few pet peeves.

Good for you. That's the way it should be used. I have witnessed very young people with their much older, probably grandmother, pull granny's car into a handicap spot. jump out and run into the store to get something to drink, and come out and drive off. Grandma never got out of the car. Total abuse; and grandma allowed it.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by dbussone

You are an idiot, plain and simple. Enough said. When you get an MD and can understand the intricacies of disease you can then earn the right to judge. Until then you should stick to whatever area of expertise you might have. I pray you never need any assistance to live your life.

The poster doesn't begrudge you anything. If you are legitimately using a HC placard, good for you. He was referring to the frauds, and there are many. Your last sentence reeks of insincerity.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by big guy

My wife and I went to Beef O'Bradys at Colony Plaza for dinner tonight. We went in the golf cart and parked in a handicapped spot. I have a handicap placard and it was clipped to the steering wheel. The placard was there when we went into Beef's but it was gone when we returned. At that time, I would say that it was all Villagers coming from the golf courses who were dining there. What kind of low life steals a handicap placard?!

First of all anyone can use the colony plaza to shop or go to eat. To say it was a villager is totally prejudice. Second the handicap cards can easily be replaced at the place where you get it. The motor V. tells you that you need to place the card so it is hard to steal. Which means in a cart you need to tape it to the windshield. Mine was stollen from the same shopping center because I hung it from the mirror, so has many others. I just went over to the motor V and got another from the outside window. Took five minutes. Then taped it to the windshield.
Lowlife steals placard sure they do. Happens in every place, in and out of the villages. Not saying it is ok to steal. Just saying you and I and many others made it very easy.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by outlaw

The poster doesn't begrudge you anything. If you are legitimately using a HC placard, good for you. He was referring to the frauds, and there are many. Your last sentence reeks of insincerity.

I was absolutely sincere. I wouldn't wish a life of difficulty on anyone. I don't use a placard. It is my wife's Judge not lest ye be judged.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Gerald

First of all anyone can use the colony plaza to shop or go to eat. To say it was a villager is totally prejudice. Second the handicap cards can easily be replaced at the place where you get it. The motor V. tells you that you need to place the card so it is hard to steal. Which means in a cart you need to tape it to the windshield. Mine was stollen from the same shopping center because I hung it from the mirror, so has many others. I just went over to the motor V and got another from the outside window. Took five minutes. Then taped it to the windshield.
Lowlife steals placard sure they do. Happens in every place, in and out of the villages. Not saying it is ok to steal. Just saying you and I and many others made it very easy.

Or it could have been someone that saw big guy drive up, get out, and walk in without the slightest indication of a serious infirmity. Before anyone demands my hanging in the town square, I am not saying big guy isn't legitimately HC. But, whether you want to believe it or not, there is a ton of fraud going on with HC placards just as in SS disability claims, and people are getting ****ed that they have to park out in the north 40 while watching the ever shrinking open spaces being converted to the ever increasing HC spaces.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by dbussone

I was absolutely sincere. I wouldn't wish a life of difficulty on anyone. I don't use a placard. It is my wife's Judge not lest ye be judged.

If you were absolutely sincere, then I will accept that. But you are misreading these comments and getting all upset for the wrong reasons. They are NOT directed at legitimate users. Have you never gone to Walmart during holiday shopping season, and could not find a HC spot, only to see some guy come out looking perfectly healthy, load up his truck with merchandise and hop into his truck, all done with the agility of a perfectly healthy appearing man? I guess there could be some hidden, legitimate reason why he has that placard. But I doubt it.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by outlaw

The poster doesn't begrudge you anything. If you are legitimately using a HC placard, good for you. He was referring to the frauds, and there are many. Your last sentence reeks of insincerity.

Is there SOME fraud---of course. Could it be worse in Florida, possibly.
But how many handicapped permit applications have you personally evaluated and signed? I'll bet zero, whereas I've done many hundreds. Just my personal experience, but the overwhelming majority of requests are legitimate. Certainly the person who appears to walk or load a vehicle without difficulty raises the suspicion level, but consider if they would perform that well after walking 200+ feet instead of 20. Do they have COPD with an FEV1 of 600 cc?--they certainly would look A LOT different at 200 feet than 20. Are they on medical treatment for a subcritical LAD stenosis of 72% with stable angina pectoris at 100 feet of level walking? An observer really is not in a position to judge the validity of the person's disability, that EXACTLY why a physician must sign the form. And the suggestion that it would be OK to steal a placard because THE THIEF decides it is fraudulent is beyond belief. Why not just shoot someone because the gun owner decides he is a terrorist?

[Bonny]

I'm one of those people that I always get the look when I park in handicap. Maybe going in I look all healthy. I walk into the store get a couple of things then it might take everything I have to get back to my car and I am struggling.
But even then, you may or may not know it.
People have no idea what is going on with anyone by looking at them.
Everyone is so quick to judge people on looks. You don't always have a clue !!!
Some people are better off worrying about themselves instead of worrying about others. Just sayin' !!

[justjim]

I've read this Thread with somewhat disbelief and wonderment. The "anger" we seem to have in a possible "illegal HP" using a handicap placard is beyond my comprehension. Don't we have other more serious concerns? Just a random thought.........

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Bonny

I'm one of those people that I always get the look when I park in handicap. Maybe going in I look all healthy. I walk into the store get a couple of things then it might take everything I have to get back to my car and I am struggling.
But even then, you may or may not know it.
People have no idea what is going on with anyone by looking at them.
Everyone is so quick to judge people on looks. You don't always have a clue !!!
Some people are better off worrying about themselves instead of worrying about others. Just sayin' !!

Originally Posted by justjim

I've read this Thread with somewhat disbelief and wonderment. The "anger" we seem to have in a possible "illegal HP" using a handicap placard is beyond my comprehension. Don't we have other more serious concerns? Just a random thought.........

Really! I feel sorry for the people with legit but not obvious handicaps, having to feign a limp so they don't get daggers stared through them.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Really! I feel sorry for the people with legit but not obvious handicaps, having to feign a limp so they don't get daggers stared through them.

The point is THEY DON'T HAVE TO, they have a legitimate placard. Personally, I would go right up to the dagger thrower and offer to trade them the placard for the disability, see how many takers there are then. What's the old proverb?--"try walking in my shoes"

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

The point is THEY DON'T HAVE TO, they have a legitimate placard. Personally, I would go right up to the dagger thrower and offer to trade them the placard for the disability, see how many takers there are then. What's the old proverb?--"try walking in my shoes"

I was being sarcastic. Can you actually imagine someone "calling" you on parking in a handicap spot if you have a proper sticker but not an obvious disability? I would respond the same way you would.

[NotGolfer]

Stealing the placard was a horrible thing to do. As for people judging whether anyone truly is "handicapped" or not needs to think again. I have one and have it because I have a 'invisible' disease. To look at me, I look fine BUT I have issues with walking due to rheumatoid arthritis and a bad back. The RA has affected my feet/ankles and hips. Walk in the shoes of someone first, then judge. I don't think doctors will sign the sheet needed unless they too think it's needed.