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Old 08-04-2015, 07:39 AM
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No he's entitled to his space in the pool & he's entitled to talk to offend anyone who is in his space--its their obligation to move-if they don't want to make his acquaintance
You defend a person speaking to a young girl, but the person who chews a cigar should be removed from any establishment you frequent. Huh?
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You defend a person speaking to a young girl, but the person who chews a cigar should be removed from any establishment you frequent. Huh?
Uh, it's called sarcasm?
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:00 AM
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I agree. There have been plenty of example of bad behavior by people over the age of 55. This is not about age. It's about personality and behavior.

Do you think this guy is going to be any different in 14 years?
I do not think people chance much either. Looks like he committed battery on someone in Reno, Nevada in 2004.
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I actually missed reading the news article about exactly what happened in the pool.

What did the man say to the 9 year old? Did he touch her in any way? How did it evolve into a fistfight? Any chance of it being a mistake by the perception of the grandfather before the confrontation?
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Uh, it's called sarcasm?
I appreciate you standing up for him, but I would like chatbrat to say that. He has said some pretty outlandish things in the past. This is not the appropriate topic for sarcasm. I think If it was his grandchild or child, he (and maybe you) would agree.
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:49 AM
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WOW ..... I can not beleve the number of people who are not focused on the real issue !
Hitting on a 9 year old girl !
At that point does it matter if the man was 19 or 41 really !

Hitting on a 9 year old girl is just flat out wrong !

I believe the grand father was right to defend his grand daughter, personally if I was there at the time I would help the grand father !
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:56 AM
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WOW ..... I can not beleve the number of people who are not focused on the real issue !
Hitting on a 9 year old girl !
At that point does it matter if the man was 19 or 41 really !

Hitting on a 9 year old girl is just flat out wrong !

I believe the grand father was right to defend his grand daughter, personally if I was there at the time I would help the grand father !
It is not clear he was hitting on the girl. From the news report it looks like he was insisting that he had a right to talk to the kids and the grandfather took issue with this. I certainly would be very protective of a niece or nephew in this situation. But, it is not reported what this 41 year old was talking with the kids about. It sounded like he was talking to a group of kids?

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allegedly approached the girl and her two 10-year-old friends. Gagnon allegedly told the girls he is “someone who liked talking to young girls,” according to the arrest report.

The grandfather told his granddaughter to get out of the swimming pool and asked Gagnon why he had been talking to his granddaughter.
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This is from the other Villages news online source.
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WOW ..... I can not beleve the number of people who are not focused on the real issue !
Hitting on a 9 year old girl !
At that point does it matter if the man was 19 or 41 really !

Hitting on a 9 year old girl is just flat out wrong !

I believe the grand father was right to defend his grand daughter, personally if I was there at the time I would help the grand father !
Amen!!!
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Guess no-one got my sarcasm, a slob is entitled to his space, but a person talking to a child isn't
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Guess no-one got my sarcasm, a slob is entitled to his space, but a person talking to a child isn't
True. Even if he was asking if they liked the temperature of the pool or some other innocent question?

The news report I saw does not really give enough facts to justify the statement that the 41 year old was hitting on the three girls.

Sorry my legal training comes in as I was trained to think like a defense lawyer among other things like judge and prosecutor.

They should have him on hitting the grandfather and taking off with cell phone though.

He probably had sleazy intentions towards the kids, but....
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True. Even if he was asking if they liked the temperature of the pool or some other innocent question?

The news report I saw does not really give enough facts to justify the statement that the 41 year old was hitting on the three girls.

Sorry my legal training comes in as I was trained to think like a defense lawyer among other things like judge and prosecutor.

They should have him on hitting the grandfather and taking off with cell phone though.

He probably had sleazy intentions towards the kids, but....
I wonder how often he approaches young girls that are sitting with adults and has a fun conversation with the young girls. Sorry but this guy is just creepy.
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True. Even if he was asking if they liked the temperature of the pool or some other innocent question?

The news report I saw does not really give enough facts to justify the statement that the 41 year old was hitting on the three girls.

Sorry my legal training comes in as I was trained to think like a defense lawyer among other things like judge and prosecutor.

They should have him on hitting the grandfather and taking off with cell phone though.

He probably had sleazy intentions towards the kids, but....
"Lawyer and Sleazy in the same post.
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I wonder how often he approaches young girls that are sitting with adults and has a fun conversation with the young girls. Sorry but this guy is just creepy.
I doubt if he ever does this. It sounds like the girls were off at a separate portion of the pool away from the adults as there is no clear statement of what the actual conversation between the man and kids was.

All I am saying is that there is no evidence that he was hitting on these three girls from the available news reports.

And there are some rather nice retired lawyers here on TOTV. I know a few of them personally. I hope they will chime into this discussion.

I do think that the Florida and US Constitutions are still very important even in a situation like this. The man does sound creepy but "innocent before proven guilty" is still very important. Again, there is not clear evidence that he was "hitting on the girls". He did hit the grandfather and run off with the grandfather's cell phone.
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Today's DS said the 41 year old resident of Summerhill was arrested for assault on a 65 year old person.

No one has the right to put their hands on a senior citizen or anyone else, for that matter!!!
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Today's DS said the 41 year old resident of Summerhill was arrested for assault on a 65 year old person.

No one has the right to put their hands on a senior citizen or anyone else, for that matter!!!
That's true.
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