The Hateful Eight Targeted for Picketing by Retired NYC and Other Area Cops.

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It is his stand-in Matt Zoller Seitz Biography & Movie Reviews | Roger Ebert.

I do not see going to this movie as being against the police but for all the other people who have put work into this movie which includes probably a thousand people or more when you think of all the movie theater employees, movie distributors, advertisers, and then the quite large crowd that got the thing onto film and that includes many people you never see in the film.

And I do not believe that people should be penalized like this for speaking their mind like Quentin Tarantino has done.

I will probably just buy some advance tickets to The Hateful Eight or go somewhere else as to avoid all the drama of this boycott.

As to violence in movies I have never seen a close casual connection made with respect to this violence and ACTIONS done by people with hatred in their minds and hearts and/or mental illness. Some of the great works of literature are very violent like The Iliad, The Bible, many Shakespeare plays, etc.
Hi Tal: I have supported or been in agreement on many issues you have addressed on this forum over the years but on this one I disagree. Those thousands of people who were paid to produce and promote this film are complicit in peddling gratuitous violence to young fragile minds in our society.
Depicting hardships and cruelty of say settling the west etc is one thing but this guy's movies all point to promoting anarchy. And so the pivotal word for me and the difference between our views is "gratuitous" And whether its violence or sex as the topic of discussion it is harmful for a society to be continually bombarded with this sort of filth.

I suspect many Americans have had a belly full of it and desire a higher art form.

I also support Tarantino's right to speak out but with rights come responsibilities and he has a responsibility like all of us to be fair and objective in what he says and does and not slander or unfairly defame a person(s). Also with his rights come the consequences of his acts and I pray for a sensible and reasonable response from citizens who support the police in this effort.

Finally I am sick of Hollywood types who continue to show disdain for America like the Fonda's Moore's, Mahar's , Affleck's,Jackson's , Sharpton's et al.

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Tal has already answered this. A site still exists; Roger Ebert.com and the person who wrote the review is editor in chief and Pulitzer Prize winner, a man named Matt Zoller Seitz.

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Should we boycott all movies with sex and violence that are playing here in the Villages???
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Tal has already answered this. A site still exists; Roger Ebert.com and the person who wrote the review is editor in chief and Pulitzer Prize winner, a man named Matt Zoller Seitz.

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https://reason.com/blog/2015/10/30/p...er-quentin-tar

A more reasonable discussion of what Quentin Tarantino said.

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"I'm a human being with a conscience," said Tarantino, who flew in from California for the event. "And if you believe there's murder going on then you need to rise up and stand up against it. I'm here to say I'm on the side of the murdered."
It looks like some police chiefs and union leaders have politicized this for the sake of the moral of their troops. Because of his movies, Tarantino looks like a easy target.
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If you want to boycott violence go to an intercity and demonstrate there.
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If you want to boycott violence go to an intercity and demonstrate there.
A better solution would be to volunteer in community projects like some in Ocala, Orlando, and elsewhere that have problems with violence and poverty.
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The great thing about America is that we can all say what we want, as well as make movies with any amount of violence (assuming we can get someone to bankroll the production and people go to see it) - Capitalism, baby. Oh, by the way, if you slander someone they can sue you. So while there are no limits on free speach there may be consequences.

Hey, its a movie. If you don't like it, or QT, then don't go to see it. There are lots of things I don't care for but I particularly like that I live in a society where my personal opinions don't infringe on what others might like. Most reasonable people can separate a work of fiction from the real world. I tune out the noise from people whose view points I don't believe in.

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Hi Tal: I have supported or been in agreement on many issues you have addressed on this forum over the years but on this one I disagree. Those thousands of people who were paid to produce and promote this film are complicit in peddling gratuitous violence to young fragile minds in our society.
Depicting hardships and cruelty of say settling the west etc is one thing but this guy's movies all point to promoting anarchy. And so the pivotal word for me and the difference between our views is "gratuitous" And whether its violence or sex as the topic of discussion it is harmful for a society to be continually bombarded with this sort of filth.

I suspect many Americans have had a belly full of it and desire a higher art form.

I also support Tarantino's right to speak out but with rights come responsibilities and he has a responsibility like all of us to be fair and objective in what he says and does and not slander or unfairly defame a person(s). Also with his rights come the consequences of his acts and I pray for a sensible and reasonable response from citizens who support the police in this effort.

Finally I am sick of Hollywood types who continue to show disdain for America like the Fonda's Moore's, Mahar's , Affleck's,Jackson's , Sharpton's et al.

Personal Best Regards:

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But this sounds to me like the opposite of a chick flick. I don't think I have any testosterone in my body except a drop here or there that makes my eyebrows grow in strange places.

Here is what Roger Ebert says about it. Sounds pretty bloody and full of torture and rape and breaking the rules. Not interested.

The Hateful Eight Movie Review (2015) | Roger Ebert
I don't think the boycott is about the movie. The boycott is about him.
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I will pass in support of the police.
Simple and in line with my feelings. Show the movie everywhere but I support the protesters, after all when I have needed help it's the protesters brothers and sisters that I have call on. The least I can do is support them when they need it without question. Retired law enforcement. Think about that. They made it through their entire career to TV and to some extent may have a slight case of PTSD, as they have witnessed things that most couldn't imagine. If I can support by simply not viewing a movie that supports the law enforcement officers why wouldn't I??
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Simple and in line with my feelings. Show the movie everywhere but I support the protesters, after all when I have needed help it's the protesters brothers and sisters that I have call on. The least I can do is support them when they need it without question. Retired law enforcement. Think about that. They made it through their entire career to TV and to some extent may have a slight case of PTSD, as they have witnessed things that most couldn't imagine. If I can support by simply not viewing a movie that supports the law enforcement officers why wouldn't I??
It sounds like the good officers though are being used for political gain of some police leaders who have taken Quentin Tarantino as an easy way to make points with their base.

I see nowhere that Tarantino attacked all cops as being murderers or anything close to that. He does make very bloody movies and has done so since Reservoir Dogs. I do not remember any police boycotts on Pulp Fiction or some of his other particularly violent movies like Kill Bill 1 and 2. They used a huge amount of fake blood for Kill Bill 1. Quentin Tarantino - Rotten Tomatoes
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Police Unions Cease Boycott of The Hateful Eight -- Vulture

It looks like many places have no boycotts planned. This may be an only in the Villages event. Police Unions Seemingly Abandon Plans to Boycott Tarantino's 'Hateful Eight' - Breitbart

Makes a trip to Ocala or Leesburg more likely for me to see this movie if there are problems with retired cops picketing the Rialto because they have nothing better to do. The Hateful Eight is opening one day early in almost 2,000 theaters | The Verge

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A police boycott of the movie could be beneficial to the film maker. People may wonder what all the hoopla is about and line up to see the movie.

Again, excessive blood, violence, etc is not enjoyable for me. I will skip it.

However, I did see Star Wars a few days ago! I liked it. Great action, special effects, and good to see the Wookie again.
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I may protest the protest by going to see the movie ;-)

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Police Unions Cease Boycott of The Hateful Eight -- Vulture

It looks like many places have no boycotts planned. This may be an only in the Villages event. Police Unions Seemingly Abandon Plans to Boycott Tarantino's 'Hateful Eight' - Breitbart

Makes a trip to Ocala or Leesburg more likely for me to see this movie if there are problems with retired cops picketing the Rialto because they have nothing better to do.
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