[thevillager1988]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Believe it or not, but Aldi sunscreen always does well in independent tests.

No surprise ... love Aldi for so many things!

Originally Posted by thevillager1988

Benzene
BHT
Propylparaben
Octocrylene
Benzophenone-3

Nah, they would never harm a baby... no not in the greatest country on earth... baby formula ingredients:

Corn Syrup Solids (55%), Vegetable Oil (26%) (Palm Olein, Coconut, Soy, And High Oleic Sunflower Oils), Soy Protein Isolate (15%), Less Than 2%: Mortierella Alpina Oil*, Schizochytrium Sp. Oil†, Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Phosphate, Cupric Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Magnesium Phosphate, Manganese Sulfate, Potassium Chloride, Potassium Citrate, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Selenite, Zinc Sulfate, L-Methionine, Choline Chloride, Ascorbic Acid, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Niacinamide, Riboflavin, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Vitamin B₁₂,

Yum yum...

I never use sunscreen. No skin cancer from the FL sun either. I cover up and wear a hat.

Less of the bad stuff in their foods as well. The EU is banning what's in food in the usa. The BPA coating on the inside of cans used for food is causing man issues but "shhhhh." Popeye would have lots of trouble if his spinach cans had BPA.

Example: Libby lima beans have a special symbol marking the Lima bean cans free from BPA. Funny thing though, other Libby vegitable cans can have BPA go figure. Don't assume anything.

For sure one has to read EVERY label and know the clever cover up words for unhealthy ingredients these days.

[TimTinNewell]

Originally Posted by Aces4

I've never heard of anyone dying from exposure to sunscreen products but melanoma is a beeotch. I think you're doing the right thing and it would be great if you can find a product that doesn't burn one's eyes.

I don't use sunscreen while Hang Gliding. The chemicals are dangerous. (BTW, I really do Hang Glide)

[NoMo50]

Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers

I never use sunscreen. No skin cancer from the FL sun either. I cover up and wear a hat.

Consider yourself fortunate. Some folks tan, some folks burn. I'm firmly in the burn camp. If I'm going to be outside (a lot), I use SPF 50...always. You won't get skin cancer tomorrow from sun exposure yesterday. Skin cancers are typically an accumulation of damage over time. But, it literally takes less than a minute to apply sunscreen, and avoiding sunburn (for me) is always a good thing.

It's also good to remember that just because a person may have dark skin, and tan easily, does not mean they cannot develop skin cancer. Bob Marley died of melanoma.

[themailman22]

Check the EWG website...
Sunscreen Guide - Rated by Scientists | EWG

[Fastskiguy]

Latest I heard on those "dangerous" chemicals is that they were fed to rats orally in really high doses and on necropsy some changes were noted in the uterus of the female rats (endocrine disruption) and so the risk to humans applying a few tablespoons topically is zero. But I'd love to hear other info on how this whole "danger" bit originated....maybe there is some legit info?

Sunscreen in general is pretty amazing. You rub in this stuff, it's invisible (some of it anyway), and the sun doesn't burn your skin. I mean...is that crazy or what??

Joe

[Dawn H]

The EWG (Environmental Working Group) rates products and food giving them ranging scores…
Simply search sunscreens in the site and you’ll find what you’re looking for.

[RoboVil]

Originally Posted by thevillager1988

Coming to the smart people on TOTV again for some help finding sunscreen that doesn't contain all those harmful ingredients. I was using the sunscreens designed for babies that say minerals. No one would harm a baby, right? And minerals are good for you. Apparently not so.

Any help is appreciated.

I have researched sunscreens. There is a difference among sunscreens and specific recommendations. First, a bit about UV-B and UV-A. UV-B is the cause of sunburn and cancer and UV-A is perhaps a more dangerous cause of cancer. UV-A can penetrate even glass (80%). Sunscreens best protect against UV-B and less so against UV-A. To get good UV-A protection you must use at least a minimum of SPF 30, but higher is recommended (and specific ingredients are recommended). SPF is considered a variable, non-scientific measurement.



Clothing: Minor role but dark colors protect better than light colors (just the opposite of what I thought). Hats are the most important articles of clothing. A 4-inch wide brim is required to cover the entire face and neck.



Ingredients: There are two types of ingredients: minerals and chemicals.



Minerals: Zinc oxide and Titanium oxide. The new nanoparticle formulations diminish the white appearance. Titanium Oxide has been demonstrated to be much LESS effective than Zinc Oxide. The recommended concentration of Zinc Oxide is 20% or more – some products only have 5%.



Zinc Oxide + Chemicals – Just Say No. Zinc Oxide 5% when combined with chemical sunscreens caused the chemicals to degrade much more extensively than when Zinc Oxide was not added - chemical sunscreens alone had 15% degradation after 2 hours but when combined with Zinc Oxide there was a whopping ~85% degradation after 2 hours. This was based on UV-A penetration.



Chemicals. There should be a combination of chemicals to protect against both UV-A and UV-B. The 4 recommended combination of ingredients are:

(1) Avobenzone
(2) Octocrylene
(3) Homosalate
(4) Octisalate

A 5th ingredient, tetraphalydine dicamphor sulphonic acid (say that 3 times fast) also increases protection from UV-A, but you are unlikely to find a product with that as an ingredient.

The above 4 ingredients are the most highly recommended by Consumer Reports as well.

Speaking of Consumer Reports, here are the sunscreens they state offer the most protection:


(1) Coppertone Water Babies Lotion

(2) Eucerin Advanced Hydration Lotion

(3) Walmart’s Equate brand of Ultra Lotion (be careful because the
ingredients could change in store brands)


Lastly, you really do need to apply 15 minutes before going out in the sun because the chemicals need to form a complex. Likewise, you really do need to reapply every 80 minutes because the chemicals degrade quickly. (And reapply after swimming or sweating a lot).

[Jimmay]

Most dermatologist carry recommended sunscreens. They’re a little on the pricey side, but they contain zinc, which is the best sunscreen available.

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Blue Lizard "Sensitive" is awesome. Broad spectrum with none of those ingredients. Active ingredients are titanium dioxide and zinc oxide. Primary carrier ingredient is castor oil.

It has a lot of scary-sounding ingredients, but they're mostly (not all, but mostly) isolated chemical components or synthetic results of combining natural sources like minerals, sand (dimethicone is a type of silicone which is made with sand, water, and methanol gas) waxes, seaweed, and other plant substances.

My middle daughter has terribly sensitive skin, her dermatologist recommended blue lizard sensitive and it was the only one that worked for her. Also seems to provide good sun protection.

[Susan1717]

Download the app Yuka. Use the barcode scan at bottom on various products at the store and it will give you their health and safety score along with other better suggestions. I had this on all health products as well as all foods.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by TimTinNewell

I don't use sunscreen while Hang Gliding. The chemicals are dangerous. (BTW, I really do Hang Glide)

You're right, some of those chemicals are VERY dangerous-----if you ingest them or inject them intravenously, NOT if you apply to skin as directed.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by NoMo50

It's also good to remember that just because a person may have dark skin, and tan easily, does not mean they cannot develop skin cancer. Bob Marley died of melanoma.

Bob Marley died of a rare form of melanoma, called Subungual Melanoma (acral lentiginous melanoma), which isn’t caused by sun exposure. It is found on either the hands or the feet and very commonly under either the thumb nail or big toe nail. It has the highest mortality rate of all melanomas, primarily because it tends to be detected late. Like other melanomas, if caught early, while still in situ or stage one, it has a high survival rate of about 95%.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by TimTinNewell

I don't use sunscreen while Hang Gliding. The chemicals are dangerous. (BTW, I really do Hang Glide)

Funny. I do believe, though, that more people die from hang gliding than sunscreen products, (unless they're drinking the sunscreen).

People, you don't want melanoma. It is the most insidious stuff to treat. I've watched a family member deal with it for many years. Thankfully, the cutting, radiation and chemo stopped after an immunotherapy arrested it. How long will that work, who knows?