[44Ruger]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I am afraid not everyone has the same attitude as you do toward tolerance of religious values. As someone said, we need to continue to be a kinder and gentler nation. Almost all religions profess the concepts of being kind and helping our fellow man and that concept is not foreign to atheists as well. However, some of the devotees believe it is their duty to convert others to their religion. This can be as destructive as the Sunis of ISIS in the Middle East or as bothersome as someone distributing the Watchtower. Somewhere in between is HL decision.

Perfect comparison. It all comes down to this country being a democracy. HL can beleive what they want, but by law they cannot hold anything due the employee for the time the work there. This case from the start has been about forcing religious beliefs down the throat of everyone. Let everyone make decisions for themselves. HL is bullying their employees. If not afraid of the CEO that runs HL they at least protest or strike.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by 44Ruger

Perfect comparison. It all comes down to this country being a democracy. HL can beleive what they want, but by law they cannot hold anything due the employee for the time the work there. This case from the start has been about forcing religious beliefs down the throat of everyone. Let everyone make decisions for themselves. HL is bullying their employees. If not afraid of the CEO that runs HL they at least protest or strike.

Didn't HL do just that - make their own decision? Or can one only make their own decision when it does not impact women/employees? And how is paying $14/hr bullying anyone?

[perrjojo]

I think this whole issue is based on emotions, not facts.

[gomoho]

I give up - some folks are haters and hard headed! Man haters, Catholic haters, religion haters. Wanting to give entitlements to women, but not rights to private business owners afforded to them by law. Forget it - you're beating your head against the wall trying to make them understand. And so it goes...

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I give up - some folks are haters and hard headed! Man haters, Catholic haters, religion haters. Wanting to give entitlements to women, but not rights to private business owners afforded to them by law. Forget it - you're beating your head against the wall trying to make them understand. And so it goes...

Right once again. Hate is ugly. Getting people all stirred up causes hating feelings. Not helpful, and no one will change anyone's opinion. I am no different than anyone else in trying to make people see it my way.

It is a beautiful day in The Villages. I love a dramatic noisy storm and the hamburgers we just shared. It really is all good and getting all angry and unhappy isn't going to make anything better.

I am glad to be with all of you in this wonderful place.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I give up - some folks are haters and hard headed! Man haters, Catholic haters, religion haters. Wanting to give entitlements to women, but not rights to private business owners afforded to them by law. Forget it - you're beating your head against the wall trying to make them understand. And so it goes...

I agree. I see a lot of haters here. It doesn't bring anyone together. I am not Catholic, I am not religious, I am not pro life. I am a woman who has fought hard for women's rights all of my life. I do believe we have lost all tolerance for anyone who believes differently. As a woman, I see no problem with this verdict. As I have said before...if this is a problem for YOU, don't work at HL. I just don't see this as the end of the world as some seem to say. What I do see is a lack of tolerance and understanding of our fellow human beings. We are all different and that is what makes us great. Please stop trying to make us all the same..whatever you think that sameness should be.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

I agree. I see a lot of haters here. It doesn't bring anyone together. I am not Catholic, I am not religious, I am not pro life. I am a woman who has fought hard for women's rights all of my life. I do believe we have lost all tolerance for anyone who believes differently. As a woman, I see no problem with this verdict. As I have said before...if this is a problem for YOU, don't work at HL. I just don't see this as the end of the world as some seem to say. What I do see is a lack of tolerance and understanding of our fellow human beings. We are all different and that is what makes us great. Please stop trying to make us all the same..whatever you think that sameness should be.

I like your reasonable approach. There are things people can do if they feel strongly against the HL decision. Make these products over the counter rather than prescription. A simple solution to Hobby Lobby outrage. Not sure there is a petition for this yet but my guess is that there will be one soon.

[asianthree]

I have worked in a hospital since 1970. They have never covered birth control.

[dirtbanker]

Originally Posted by gomoho

They are men. Do most men really care about health care for women, let alone birth control measures? NO!

What rock did you climb out from under? You have not been hanging out with real men that is for sure! Thanks for the neanderthal stereotype there.

You evidently have not read many of the posts in this 18 page thread prior to posting...Hobby Lobby's objection was towards abortion drugs, not towards birth control drugs.

[Average Guy]

Originally Posted by dirtbanker

What rock did you climb out from under? You have not been hanging out with real men that is for sure! Thanks for the neanderthal stereotype there.

You evidently have not read many of the posts in this 18 page thread prior to posting...Hobby Lobby's objection was towards abortion drugs, not towards birth control drugs.

You attributed the wrong poster with the quote that you referenced. It was posted by Bonanza.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

I agree. I see a lot of haters here. It doesn't bring anyone together. I am not Catholic, I am not religious, I am not pro life. I am a woman who has fought hard for women's rights all of my life. I do believe we have lost all tolerance for anyone who believes differently. As a woman, I see no problem with this verdict. As I have said before...if this is a problem for YOU, don't work at HL. I just don't see this as the end of the world as some seem to say. What I do see is a lack of tolerance and understanding of our fellow human beings. We are all different and that is what makes us great. Please stop trying to make us all the same..whatever you think that sameness should be.

I agree, please Hobby Lobby, you are showing a lack of tolerance and understanding of your fellow human beings. We are all different and that is what makes us great. Please stop trying to make us all the same..whatever you think that sameness should be.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Right once again. Hate is ugly. Getting people all stirred up causes hating feelings. Not helpful, and no one will change anyone's opinion. I am no different than anyone else in trying to make people see it my way.

It is a beautiful day in The Villages. I love a dramatic noisy storm and the hamburgers we just shared. It really is all good and getting all angry and unhappy isn't going to make anything better.

I am glad to be with all of you in this wonderful place.

I love the smell of the rain and the wet grass this evening.

[dirtbanker]

Originally Posted by Average Guy

You attributed the wrong poster with the quote that you referenced. It was posted by Bonanza.

I apologize to Gomoho for that, I used the quote feature and that is what I ended up with.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I agree, please Hobby Lobby, you are showing a lack of tolerance and understanding of your fellow human beings. We are all different and that is what makes us great. Please stop trying to make us all the same..whatever you think that sameness should be.

Thank you, SCOTUS, for showing us that the law permits us tolerance of our beliefs.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

Thank you, SCOTUS, for showing us that the law permits us tolerance of our beliefs.

That is the Golden Rule. The workers must tolerate Hobby Lobby owner's belief.
He who has the gold rules and forces them to tolerate the owners belief. There is no reciprocation by the owner.