[Donna2]

Originally Posted by ricthemic

Help me out here Russ. On a subsequent post you said you don't see anything negative on 90 percent of the post on this subject... are you counting your own above post?

Maybe it was just his feelings but people still read it and subconsciously it still sticks. I don't think Russ was trying to be negative. But when somebody reads it, they might take it that way. I apologize if I stepped over the line.

[Donna2]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

What are we saying here. Are you saying that using the term 'kissing lanai' is stepping on someone's toes? It's just a term to indicate that a lanai backs up to another. Some people like that and some people don't care because they don't spend much time on their lanai. Nothing wrong with it and nothing wrong with the term in my opinion. If that's not the beef then what's the issue?

This has been a good thread (and a few others lately about lanais) about the pros/cons of lanai location. I don't read anything negative in 99% of the comments.

Please elaborate.

Actually, when I was agreeing with Pturner, I didn't even have you in mind. I have been reading these forums for months and I have seen negative connotations in a few threads. You were not singled out. Sorry you took it that way. Go back and read the posts. your name wasn't mentioned.

[tony]

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walkr
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Homes that back up to a street
I've just read the thread about homes with a water view. Buying a house that backs up to a street is a less expensive option to get rear privacy. Could those of you who have a home that backs up to a street share your experiences: car noise, ambulances, people walking by while you are on your lanai, and (my biggest concern) any increased incidence of break-ins.

I've noticed that the houses that back up to large streets like Morse have deeper back yards. So if your house backs up to one of the smaller roads, where the houses are closer to the road, how does that affect noise, break-ins, etc?

I tried to do a search for info on homes that back up to a street but didn't find a thread that specifically covered that. So if this has already been covered, I apologize.

Thanks.

[BB14616]

To add another opinion to the mix, the kissing lanai's can be private too, if they are landscpaped properly. Sometimes people close in their lanai's with windows so if you are lucky enough to be behind one of those and you have good landscaping, you won't see or hear your neighbors. Just a thought. And smaller yard = less maintenance, lower taxes and less home lot premium when purchasing the home.

[redwitch]

I've stayed in several different locations and types of homes in TV while dog sitting. I really don't like the kissing lanais. For me, that's just too much of a loss of privacy, even with good landscaping. I'm not a big fan of the idea of living off a golf course because of the golfers' conversations I've overheard while sitting on lanais. Courtyard villas are too closed IMHO -- you can truly go days or even weeks without seeing a neighbor. To me, street noises are really not that much of an issue. The best, though, is a water view. I'd even take that over a patio villa if it were in my budget.

There are two houses that I stay at that are street lots. One is off of Stillwater and the other off of Odell. I've found the noise and traffic really isn't that bothersome at either location. So, I figure if it doesn't bother me while staying in a strange place, it probably isn't that bad for most. The exception, to me, would be a corner lot on a busy street (Bailey Trail/St. Charles comes to mind). That is truly too noisy for my taste.

I really don't want to hear other people's conversations, whether they be sitting in their lanais, walking by, driving by in their golf carts. I've found that with good landscaping this can be avoided on street lots but not with kissing lanais.

So, my vote (if I could afford the choice) would be:

1. Water view
2. Patio villa
3. Street lot w/good landscaping
4. Golf course view
(Kissing lanais and courtyard villas could not be on my list, sorry.)

The good thing about TV is that there are choices. What bothers me is what thrills others. Give yourself time, be honest about what you like/need/can afford and you'll find the right place for you. If worse comes to worse, you can always sell and buy a new place after you move here -- many do.

[l2ridehd]

Redwitch makes some good points. Everyone has different needs and what they like and don't like. Probably depends on where you grew up. If it was in the city with apartments and houses on every side, TV lots and close neighbors may not be an issue. If you grew up on a farm in the country then it will be a challenge to find what you want here. My list would be different from redwitch for different reasons.

1. Golf course lot. BUT, not close to a cart path and not where I could be hit by golf balls. So a very small percentage of lots. And this is what I bought in TV.
2. Preserve or water view, BUT one that did not lose it's water or get really low during a dry season. Very few meet this criteria.
3. Back to a street, BUT a very non busy street. Not a street that even is a feeder street in a neighborhood. And not a Morse, Buena Vista, Bailey Trail, Odell Circle, Canal street or any main street. These will get worse over time as the build out continues.
4. Cul-de-sac lot with offset lanais. So a larger lot, offset and distance between homes. My rental home in TV.
5. Patio Villa. Having the lanai in front is not a bad option at all. Offers more privacy, street usually not so busy, and front yard views where places are usually better landscaped. Issue for me was size and garage space.
6. A water view where it less predictable.
7. A golf course lot where I may get hit once in a while with a ball, still away from the cart path.
8. A busier street, but still not a through street
9. Another development where I can afford something in the 1 through 4 range.

And I know many of you have bought based on different desires and requirements and probably some I have showed I would not consider. And that works for you. These were my requirements and they worked for me. Most everyone would have a different list then mine. You have to decide what is important, how much you can afford, what your lifestyle will be, then find a home that meets those needs. If your going to golf all day, party all night and just sleep at your home, buy the cheapest priced most home available. If your planing to "live" there, build your list that works for you and stick with it. Location is still the most important value in Real Estate.

[English Ivy]

There was an article in this morning's Daily Sun regarding a man who died in a single vehicle crash which caused damaged to some Village of Caroline homes.

This vehicle was driving on Cherry Lake Road, lost control and collided with several objects including fencing, an electrical transformer, bushes and trees. Parts of the vehicle were scattered across the yards of several homes and even on the roof of one home. A wheel landed nearly four houses from the crash site.

We used to have a patio villa which backed up to Cherry Lake Road. The road was actually above us. As soon as we moved in we realized how easy it would be to have a car end up in our villa some day. We sold the villa.

So when you're looking at a house that backs up to a street, also consider out of control vehicles crashing into your house.

Can you imagine if the vehicle that crashed into the pump house by the Duval gate had crashed into a house instead?

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

If your going to golf all day, party all night and just sleep at your home, buy the cheapest priced most home available. If your planing to "live" there, build your list that works for you and stick with it. Location is still the most important value in Real Estate.

Excellent post L2 - I agree with your list but as you mentioned we all have to prioritize based on affordablity as well.

I really like you last comment (that I quoted). For us we will be full-time working residents for 10 years or so. That needs to be in the equation.

Again - great post!

[BB14616]

Nothing is guaranteed when it comes to privacy. We have friends with a beautiful golf course home, and the home next door put on a large birdcage where the dogs spend time barking, and they have a lot of parties and play a loud television. A lot willl depend on your neighbors.

[interested]

We back up to Morse. We have a large lot with a fence, shrubs and more land between us and the road. In other words we are not that close to the road. We have great privacy and the noise isn't bad at all. I should mention that the golf cart path is on the other side of the road. We love it. I think a backyard view of a lake or preserve would be nicer but it wasn't in our budget. As others have said, it is a personal decision.

[walkr]

Thank you all for your responses. TOTV is such a great resource!

[MargaretR]

Does a cement wall of a courtyard villa make a good sound buffer on a street such as St. Charles?

Thanks,
Margaret

[MelZ]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Does a cement wall of a courtyard villa make a good sound buffer on a street such as St. Charles?

Thanks,
Margaret

I have a CYV that backs onto Odell circle, we get almost no road noise in the house. While sitting out back you do hear raod nosie during the day. But I grew up in Brooklyn NY and the road noise on Odell is nothing comapred to city nosie. I find it rather soothing.

[TomW]

We also back up to Odell about 300 feet from the BV gate. Very little noise with none at night and we prefer it over a kissing lanai. Just a little landscaping breaks up the line of sight but doesn't create a solid wall. We have a greenscape across the street so the "view" isn't all that bad either. Anyway, it works for us!

[JohnN]

some streets are fairly quiet and I'd not have a problem,
some are really busy and I'd not like that,

just how I see it