[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Evidence that cannabis is less dangerous than alcohol (notice I don't say better, safer, healthier, superior to, etc. I specify "less dangerous" intentionally):

From the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, a government website:


That's 88 thousand people JUST in the USA.

Perhaps a thousand people die yearly, worldwide, as a direct result of use or abuse of THC and/or the Cannabis plant.

Cannabis, in particular the chemical component THC, is used legally and medically with prescription to treat the side effects of cancer treatment. Marinol is one such prescription.
Consumable (only ethyl) alcohol has zero approved medical use, except as a base for actual medicine (such as Nyquil and other elixers).

According to the CDC (another government website), "death" isn't even on the list of health risks for use of cannabis. But there is an entire website for the government dedicated to health effects of alcohol (see above).

Whether or not someone "would" use cannabis at some point if it was made legal, would depend entirely on that person, in each person's circumstances. You might say "never ever ever! today, and be stricken with cancer next week and beg for a Marinol prescription.

In addition, you might say "never ever ever it's so bad horrible bad!" to cannabis, while sucking down your fifth martini of the day and it isn't even suppertime yet.

I wouldn't worry too much about Judgey McJudgester the Internet-Armchair Opinion-Talker.

It's not as if these 88 thousand people died immediately after taking a swig! The real danger is how many of the walking dead, aka the brain fried tokesters,are living among us.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by PrudentLifer

It's not as if these 88 thousand people died immediately after taking a swig! The real danger is how many of the walking dead, AKA the brain fried tokesters are living among us.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

Fewer than brain-fried alcoholics.

Remember Reefer Madness was a propaganda film from 1936. Actual science has debunked the propaganda. Cannabis is one of THE most studied plants, and THC one of THE most researched drugs, ever. Contrary to other propaganda that would want you to believe otherwise.

You can find thousands of studies on each right online, or in your local library, or in any medical library.

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Fewer than brain-fried alcoholics.



Remember Reefer Madness was a propaganda film from 1936. Actual science has debunked the propaganda. Cannabis is one of THE most studied plants, and THC one of THE most researched drugs, ever. Contrary to other propaganda that would want you to believe otherwise.



You can find thousands of studies on each right online, or in your local library, or in any medical library.

I have no desire to learn about something I don't care about. My life's experience has proven I can detect a pothead from the first 5 minutes of conversation. So, either these people have similar personalities or their brains are affected in a similar way.
Bottom line. I would not fight side by side with a pothead, but I would with an alcoholic. Potheads can't be trusted.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[PennBF]

Two in the family have a long history of treating addicts who were on Coke, Meth, Heron, Oxycontin, Alcohol, Marijuana, Co Dependency, etc. If you want the facts regarding drugs you may want to earn the right to understand them by doing some work. I don't intend to do it for those too lazy to do it for themselves. If the individual does the homework it may help them to understand the threat to their bodies and mind and cause them to go for help. These are family illnesses. A village AA or NA is a great place to start. If you don't study the problem then you really don't want to get better and have little concern for those around you who experience the impact of your abuse. Go to the internet and look up "Villages AA and NA Meetings" and you will be surprised how many are available for you to attend. Also, Ala Non for those who are living with an addict. It is a great gift to yourself and for the family Ala Non is a great gift to themselves.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by PrudentLifer

...My life's experience has proven I can detect a pothead from the first 5 minutes of conversation...

I would hope you could see the flaw in that “logic”. I did’t think so.

You could well be right about those you judged to be potheads, although it’s not certain at all. But all those other folks you’ve met in your life’s experience...you don’t have a clue.

[karostay]

During my working days..The 420 crowd were ready to work everyday..The bottle bunch were unable till about noon

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by PennBF

Two in the family have a long history of treating addicts who were on Coke, Meth, Heron, Oxycontin, Alcohol, Marijuana, Co Dependency, etc. If you want the facts regarding drugs you may want to earn the right to understand them by doing some work. I don't intend to do it for those too lazy to do it for themselves. If the individual does the homework it may help them to understand the threat to their bodies and mind and cause them to go for help. These are family illnesses. A village AA or NA is a great place to start. If you don't study the problem then you really don't want to get better and have little concern for those around you who experience the impact of your abuse. Go to the internet and look up "Villages AA and NA Meetings" and you will be surprised how many are available for you to attend. Also, Ala Non for those who are living with an addict. It is a great gift to yourself and for the family Ala Non is a great gift to themselves.

Geez, where do you draw the line? Look at everything you wrote above. Each and every one is a formulation made with Chemistry, oh except Marijuana!!! Its a damn plant, like a carrot,sage, orchids etc....

Or is it about the addiction argument?
If so do you consider constant message board posting some form of addiction. I do know they have programs for that as well. Here would be an example:

"A Debate Troll
Someone who loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message.

They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up"

Think you need to stop stereo typing so broadly and think Cannabis users are non productive people, who will be snorting coke, or injecting meth because they use or try MJ. Using me as a example who used to enjoy smoking back in the day, just decided to not really indulge anymore and was simple to just stop. No Clinics or AAA simply because its not near as addictive as you think. Also if you want to judge success from a ex "STONER" you would be shocked of what I have accomplished and I bet million others!!!!!

In conclusion, I think I'll go out in the garden a pick some fresh basil and sage to flavor my freshly caught wahoo. I hope while cooking it does not get me "HIGH" cuz plants are very very bad!

Cheers

[karostay]

Originally Posted by PrudentLifer

I have no desire to learn about something I don't care about. My life's experience has proven I can detect a pothead from the first 5 minutes of conversation. So, either these people have similar personalities or their brains are affected in a similar way.
Bottom line. I would not fight side by side with a pothead, but I would with an alcoholic. Potheads can't be trusted.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

Remember when the gov was experimenting with brain washing
Wonder how that worked out?..Bet theirs a few subjects still around

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by karostay

Remember when the gov was experimenting with brain washing

Wonder how that worked out?..Bet theirs a few subjects still around

Was? As in past tense, lol.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[Dionysos]

One thing we all have in common now in regards to this thread. Advertisers along with AI data science is now targeting us as needing grow equipment lol. I have now seen lights, greenhouses and Scott’s miracle grow.

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

One thing we all have in common now in regards to this thread. Advertisers along with AI data science is now targeting us as needing grow equipment lol. I have now seen lights, greenhouses and Scott’s miracle grow.

Too bad we don't have basements, lol


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[manaboutown]

Years ago I knew a long time AA member who ran sober living and halfway houses. He could observe a substance abuser's attire, demeanor, state of hygiene, behavior and speech for a few minutes and determine just what the individual was on or had been using. Marijuana, alcohol, painkillers, heroin, meth, cocaine, whatever. I found it remarkable but he proved to be correct every time.

[manaboutown]

Marijuana breathalyzer are on their way! Yay! Access Denied

Link worked for me. It is for the Sacramento Bee.

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Marijuana breathalyzer are on their way! Yay! Access Denied

Link worked for me. It is for the Sacramento Bee.

Excellent. Drunks have always been getting the short end of the stick.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Marijuana breathalyzer are on their way! Yay! Access Denied

Link worked for me. It is for the Sacramento Bee.

Hopefully they develop a common sense/judgement impermanent test as well. Probably do a lot more good!