[redwitch]

Snowbird, I love your list. I wish everything on it was enforced, but it's not. The tags being read is unless someone has hit the gate and broken the canmera. Most of the time, IDs are checked in the rec centers, but rarely at the pools or outdoor facilities (it is amazing how angry some villagers get when asked to show their ID while in the pools or playing bocce or ...). To me, there is no excuse for drunk driving -- whether in a car, cart or on a bike. If you drink, you shouldn't drive. Yes, it really is that simple. What galls me is that golf cart drivers cannot be ticketed when on golf cart paths -- just when they are sharing the road on the streets. Wish we could have golf cart officers who enforce the golf cart laws on the paths themselves. Okay, before I get on my soapbox, I'm going to sit on my hands for now.

[skip0358]

Not so sure about the Golf Cart paths anymore. The other day at the Political rally the Sheriffs Dept. was there with there new golf cart, lettered and labeled also with emergency lights and siren, This cart was recently seen driving the golf carts trails by my neighbor. At the Parrot Heads meeting last week we were told of someone who got stopped on the road excess spped with a golf cart and wound up with a whole slew of tickets. So it wouldn't surprise me at all of they don't start cracking down.

[rjm1cc]

This site will give you current crime and community informaiton on various towns. http://www.nixle.com/

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Excellent post Redwitch. I agree with everything but your opinion of the Morse's greed factor. I don't care if he is making money hand over fist. Just because he is successful doesn't mean he is greedy.

But....the rest of your points are well made and feeling safe is what I expected and what I am getting. If it gets to the point that we need to have more security than we now have.........than things need to change.

Carol came on and told us what happened. She was not harmed, thank heavens. Have we heard of a lot of things happening like this? No. Will all of us be more mindful in that same situation? I hope so. Showering with a friend watching out might be just the right thing to do. If something changes and another incident is reported, than changes need to be made. But the sky isn't falling quite yet.

That is just my opinion and I might be wrong...as Russ says. And if I am, someone is gonna bust my chops.

I agree with graciegirl. Redwitch makes some excellent points but accusing the Morse family of being greedy is the exception.

[784caroline]

rjm1cc

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[zcaveman]

SInce I live in Marion county, I will say that I have seen the Marion county police around the area. I have seen the radar stops and the m/c cops doing their job. They usualy work Belle Meade circle.

[mgm4444]

Type in "The Villages, Florida" and it will give you news regarding surrounding area

[Yoda]

We live in a wonderful place. Do not be stupid because you feel old and vulnerable. You could destroy the golden goose.

Police are notoriously inept at preventing crime. We need them. without them we could not exist but don't expect more than you should.

Protect yourself. Nobody else can.

Watch out for your neighbor and he will watch out for you.

Do you want a cop on every Coner? Would you feel safer? Would you go out as much? Would you move from The Villages?

Morse made a profit...GOOD!

Just some thoughts.

Yoda

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Yoda

We live in a wonderful place. Do not be stupid because you feel old and vulnerable. You could destroy the golden goose.

Police are notoriously inept at preventing crime. We need them. without them we could not exist but don't expect more than you should.

Protect yourself. Nobody else can.

Watch out for your neighbor and he will watch out for you.

Do you want a cop on every Coner? Would you feel safer? Would you go out as much? Would you move from The Villages?

Morse made a profit...GOOD!

Just some thoughts.

Yoda

Very well said, Yoda!

[Bryan]

I generally agree with and support most of the comments in this thread, even the ones about the Morse Family profit. I think that particular subject is well proven in their early "sales" of facilities to the CDD's at greatly inflated prices. Still, they did a great job of developing TV and I applaud them for that.

The improvements several of you mentioned (better ID checks at pools, outdoor rec areas, etc.) I also support. We pay quite a lot for CW so, like most of you I do not want a "Village Police Force", I do wish they were more proactive in enforcing rules (not traffic rules) around rec centers and the squares and the deed restrictions. I think they could do a lot there if given permission to act. As it stands today, they cannot even tell kids to stop skate boarding on the boardwalk at Sumter Landing.

All in all, this is one of the safest places to live and a lot of factors make that happen, including US!

[pauld315]

I think the question would really boil down to "How much more in amenities fees are you willing to pay for increased security ?" I am sure they could implement any level of security everyone is willing to pay for.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by pauld315

I think the question would really boil down to "How much more in amenities fees are you willing to pay for increased security ?" I am sure they could implement any level of security everyone is willing to pay for.

Now we're talking. That is really the bottom line.

Pauld, I bet you are /were successful in business.

[784caroline]

Out of 80,000 residents, if you could truly identify increased security measures at ceratin locations be it, The Village Squares, Entrance gates, Sports pools, family pools and neighborhod pools, how many residents do you think would vote for increased security resulting in a $XXX increased amenity fee???

Obviously you would have to ask yourselves what is wrong with what we have now for the places I go and use. You can pump alot of money into various security features ...no place is ever 100% secure. A prudent, cautious approach in doing things often is the best answer to stay safe.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by 784caroline

Out of 80,000 residents, if you could truly identify increased security measures at ceratin locations be it, The Village Squares, Entrance gates, Sports pools, family pools and neighborhod pools, how many residents do you think would vote for increased security resulting in a $XXX increased amenity fee???

Obviously you would have to ask yourselves what is wrong with what we have now for the places I go and use. You can pump alot of money into various security features ...no place is ever 100% secure. A prudent, cautious approach in doing things often is the best answer to stay safe.

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[Taj44]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Now we're talking. That is really the bottom line.

Pauld, I bet you are /were successful in business.

The thing is, we are already paying amenity fees for the people who staff the gates, and not getting any security out of it.

I agree with snowbirdtobe:

The cameras at the gates reading license plates.
See AAC minuets July 14th 2010

The age and residency requirements enforced for pools and rec centers

All alcohol laws enforced even if driving a golf cart
This is a requirement for selling alcohol everywhere even in TV and I
don't want to be driving through a tunnel with a drunk traveling toward me.

Published rules for "guest passes" enforced