[vj1213]

Originally Posted by K9-Lovers

I am only in my mid 50's and I am not afraid. I am not paranoid. I feel strong, happy and confident.

I do know that bad things happen to good people.

I am aware of my surroundings; I carry simple protection, and I am cautious. Just like I was in my 30's, and 40's. And, just like I was when I lived in places other than TV. (I was too naive in my 20's and younger to know that anything bad could happen to me). I expect that I'll feel and think the same way as I age into my 60's, 70's, 80's and beyond. Just because I will be older, doesn't mean all of a sudden I will become paranoid and afraid. Because I will be the same person, I will continue to be vigilant and aware.

Just like Talk Host, I am saddened by people who think that being cautious and vigilant is the same thing as being afraid and paranoid. Your thought process is FLAWED.

I could place labels on those that do not think the same as I do (like naive, or worse) but I try not to judge others. And, if I fail, I try not to say it out loud.

I am in my early 50's and just as you stated, I am not afraid, nor paranoid, and believe me I am very strong, happy and confident.
As I stated in a previous post, I know by personal experience that bad things can and do happen to good people. But I do not live my life in fear. I do not think about doom and gloom. Can I say when I am in my 60's, 70's, 80's I will not be afraid. No, I've witnessed others, including my parents, not necessarily living in fear, but let's just say becoming overly cautious of things they were doing not that long ago.
I am not paranoid that something bad is going to happen. You may all disagree, but my feeling is that I, along with each and every person in TV's is entitled to feel safe. If situations warrant extra security, it should be provided.

[K9-Lovers]

Gracie, I am not disagreeing with you that some older folks become excessively fearful. Some do. Others might become so because they realize that an older and more frail person may be an easier target. I agree with you that some people, old and young, are overly fearful. Maybe I will become that way in later years. But that is not what we were discussing.

The discussion on this thread turned to the topic of carrying weapons. The point I am trying to make, and others have tried to make in the past is:

Just because someone may carry a gun, or lock their doors during the daytime, or carry a walking stick to ward off dogs, or pepper spray to ward off attackers, or carry any other means of protection, or take other precautions DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE AFRAID OR FEARFUL.

This is not the first time you have expressed the same idea. This is not the first time others have tried to explain that they carry protection as "insurance" (remember that conversation?).

When ever someone says anything remotely connected to crime in TV, you immediately tell everyone how safe it is in TV. Then that prompts everyone to respond to you, resulting in a very long thread regarding crime . . .

When ever someone mentions a concealed weapon, you have (more than once) said that it is sad that those people are so afraid. That prompts everyone to respond to you, resulting in a very long thread regarding carrying weapons. . . .

If you don't want anyone to think that TV is unsafe, or think that all the residents walk around with guns under their clothes, then it seems to me you might rethink your tactics when responding to those topics, because it only encourages more discussion.

Like I said in one of the many threads regarding this subject: "You seem to be a very nice person, and I pray that no evil ever befalls you. But I know not everyone is like you."

I also know that all people who take precautions, are vigilant, or even those who "carry" are not doing so because they are afraid or fearful.

You are one of the nicest people on TOTV and so I offer my apology if I have offended you. I just can't let the type of statement you made (again) go without commenting. That is stereotyping. It is not true, and it is not nice nor polite to label people or call people names.

If you insist on restating this same idea again on the same topic in the future (that people who carry protection or take precautions are doing so because they are afraid or fearful) . . . next time I will just copy this post and paste it onto the thread. You've just about worn me out.

Love you Gracie, from K9.

[K9-Lovers]

My two cents worth on additional security: there is no need for additional security in TV. It is a pretty safe place to live. There is already enough security with Community Watch, people at the gates, and good neighbors who are mostly home all day watching out for each other.

Take common sense precautions. Bad things will happen now and again in TV, but not as often as in other places.

Let us not blow things out of porportion, eh?

[BobKat1]

Ones general outlook changes as you get older. From your mid 50's to your mid 60's to your mid 70's etc. IMO it's just a natural age thing. It doesn't mean you quit living a normal happy life, it just means a lot of things are different for a variety of reasons and we all adjust in our own ways.

[JimJoe]

I think TV is a very safe place BUT...
it will not be long before criminals decide this place is ripe for the pickins..

In my area of practice We frequently had hotel guests targeted. They have cash, they are unfamiliar with the area, they won't want to come back to testify, and they are IQ smart, but street stupid.

Crooks like easy targets, rich ones, ones that don't fight back.
Let me guess where that would be.... hmm

Think like a crook if you want to reduce your chances of being a victim.

And one more thing. I am not related to Sarah Palin to those of you who think I must be stupid or crazy (paranoid). If you think that you belong in the political forum because there that is a typical not right response to someone you disagree with.
JJ

[otherbruddaDarrell]

I worked in high crime areas for many years. Gary In, East Chicago In, Hammond In, South side of Chicago (hi there Leroy Brown), Detroit..............you get the picture. I lived in Griffith at the time and it was right next door from Gary and Hammond.
There were so many murders and shootings that they do not even make the front page of the papers anymore................so I do understand the concern over security.
Crime will happen no matter where you live so it just boils down to being observant of things around you. If you see something that seems..........and feels out of place, call the police and have them check it out.
Most people carry a cel-phone and should program the phone numbers of the various police agencies as well as community watch and the fire dept.
I carried a weapon for many years and at this stage of my life I do not feel the need to.....but that is a personal choice. Florida gun laws allow you to have one in the car and that is ok by me for when I go somewhere I am not real familiar with.
If you carry....don't show it and if you pull it, be prepared to use it.
I prefer an old heavy putter in my golf cart. I can practice putting when I want and it is also a self defense weapon.....
Times are not the same as when we all grew up and you need to watch out for your neighbors and get to know who belongs in the neighborhood.

[Talk Host]

"Security offered by the gate attendants"

I have a very good friend who works a gate. He has for years. I have even (although I'm not suppose to) visited him inside the box while he's at work. He has told me on a number of occasions that they do not (THAT'S DO NOT) have any control or concern about the people who come in and out day or night.

He has said that during the night hours, cars containing several people of various ages, genders and races come and go. I asked him what he does when an unsavory looking group enters at 3 a.m.

His answer was "nothing, what am I going to do? I'm not suppose to do anything. I can't call the cops every time a car looks suspicious."

He also laughed when he told me that every night (THAT'S EVERY NIGHT) cars containing one, two or three young women come in after midnight, and leave an hour or so later. I can't imagine what they are doing in The Villages.

[Boomer]

And who said House Calls were a thing of the past.

Blissful Boomer

[784caroline]

Talk Host

Are you now assuming that "any" woman who enters a gate after midnight and exits within an hour is up to something .......dangerous assumption.

SO all lady residents, make certain you come in the gate before midnight (really before 9 for we are all to be in bed by then (Opps)) ..otherwise I guess you will fall into this category!!! WOW!

Obviously Gate guards are needed afterhours to priovide needed directions!

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by Boomer

And who said House Calls were a thing of the past.

Blissful Boomer

I am confident they are here only to perform good deeds.
JJ

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by 784caroline

Talk Host

Are you now assuming that "any" woman who enters a gate after midnight and exits within an hour is up to something .......dangerous assumption.

SO all lady residents, make certain you come in the gate before midnight (really before 9 for we are all to be in bed by then (Opps)) ..otherwise I guess you will fall into this category!!! WOW!

Obviously Gate guards are needed afterhours to priovide needed directions!

I think I said "young" women. I also think you know what I mean.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

I think I said "young" women. I also think you know what I mean.

Looks like the basis for a brand new rumor......more assumtions that will be spread around.

[red tail]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Looks like the basis for a brand new rumor......more assumtions that will be spread around.

i wonder whats considered young in the villages

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Looks like the basis for a brand new rumor......more assumtions that will be spread around.

Read back issues of the paper.

Originally Posted by Talk Host

"Security offered by the gate attendants"

I have a very good friend who works a gate. .....

He also laughed when he told me that every night (THAT'S EVERY NIGHT) cars containing one, two or three young women come in after midnight, and leave an hour or so later. I can't imagine what they are doing in The Villages.

They are just addicted to skinny dipping but need to do it at 2 in the morning. They even have a club-- the Florida Young Naturists.