[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

What makes you assert he is an attention seeker? He is there to enjoy the music along with others.

If I have a man or woman loudly talking to the screen when I am at a movie theater, I usually just leave the theater. If others have to endure this I would get an attendant if there is one around and have her ask them to be quiet.

This man with Asperger's though is at a band playing at a Villages' Square. He has a right to be there.

His right to enjoy the music ends when he deprives others of their enjoyment.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

His right to enjoy the music ends when he deprives others of their enjoyment.

Why does he keep coming then if the bands have a problem with him? My guess is that he has a legal right to be there unless he breaks a law. And most of the people also watching do not have a problem with his yelling.

I would not enjoy music if someone were yelling a lot but I would just go home or to another square. We live in an open society.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Why does he keep coming then if the bands have a problem with him? My guess is that he has a legal right to be there unless he breaks a law. And most of the people also watching do not have a problem with his yelling.

I would not enjoy music if someone were yelling a lot but I would just go home or to another square. We live in an open society.

No one should be forced to leave because another person is disruptive.

There have been a number of threads about him. Seems his screaming goes above just being enthusiastic about the music.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That is a deliberate attempt to distract from the musicians' work. A man with a mental condition-- Asperger's-- who gets excited because of he music is a different matter entirely. And I doubt if the band has any problem with him at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTKHZeP-IZQ

A disturbance of any kind and for any reason is not universally accepted or appreciated. What if he was similarly demonstrative at the Sharon for a performance of Swan Lake. He screams, the swan hits the floor with a broken ankle. It could be a scream at the square that causes a new visitor to lose their balance, trip and end up with a broken hip.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

He is hardly a "screaming screwball". And the Squares are a public place. A flamingo on your yard is a violation of property agreements.

screaming

adjective: screaming
1.
giving a long, loud, piercing cry or cries.
"a harassed parent with a screaming child"

screaming definition - Google Search


"screwball noun [C] (PERSON)


mainly US informal
a person who behaves in a strange and funny way"

SCREWBALL | definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary

Screaming screwball is not misdescriptive of this individual but apt.

The squares are indeed "open to the public" and in that sense are a "public place".

Most Villagers are aware the landscaping rights of owners are subject to restrictive covenants.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

No one should be forced to leave because another person is disruptive.

There have been a number of threads about him. Seems his screaming goes above just being enthusiastic about the music.

No one is being forced to leave. But someone in the Villages has a right to enjoy the music at a Square even if they have Asperger's and they yell too much.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

A disturbance of any kind and for any reason is not universally accepted or appreciated. What if he was similarly demonstrative at the Sharon for a performance of Swan Lake. He screams, the swan hits the floor with a broken ankle. It could be a scream at the square that causes a new visitor to lose their balance, trip and end up with a broken hip.

Different matter. I would hope that anyone who goes to a ballet would have sense enough not to start yelling.

Also that is usually a person who has bought a ticket to an event.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Different matter. I would hope that anyone who goes to a ballet would have sense enough not to start yelling.

Also that is usually a person who has bought a ticket to an event.

You didn't read my last sentence or chose to ignore it.
Also, what prevents a person with Asperger's from buying a ticket? Or attending a chess or golf or shooting tournament?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

No one should be forced to leave because another person is disruptive.

There have been a number of threads about him. Seems his screaming goes above just being enthusiastic about the music.

Is he disruptive or does he dance around and occasionally make some noise? When I saw him last fall he danced his dance and didn't disrupt anything. Others have accused him of seeking attention but at that time he didn't acknowledge any attention at all, he just kept dancing. I don't recall any of those threads stating anything different.

I find it distracting and it affects my enjoyment to see people dancing poorly - should all the non-professional dancers be asked to leave because they deprive me of my enjoyment?

I find my enjoyment of the entertainment considerably lessened by seeing unattractive old people on the dance floor - should it be a requirement that you have to be young and fit to dance at the squares because otherwise someone is deprived of their enjoyment?

People talking behind me or walking in front of me while fetching their drinks detracts from my enjoyment - can anyone practicing those behaviors be kicked out?

I don't know where the line is that separates uncommon behavior and disruptive behavior or if legally there is one. I haven't seen this individual in several months so perhaps his behavior has changed but to me it did not seem disruptive last fall. Of course, without a legal definition, "disruptive" becomes very subjective and as a society we've become very intolerant of those who are not like us.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

This is now a world without common sense. Allow some screaming screwball to disrupt the enjoyment of music by hundreds of law abiding folks, night after night; place a (silent) plastic flamingo in your front yard and the authorities are all over it like a bad rash.

Calling this autistic gentleman a "screaming screwball" may be a bit too much.

[Whitley]

QUOTE " find my enjoyment of the entertainment considerably lessened by seeing unattractive old people on the dance floor - should it be a requirement that you have to be young and fit to dance at the squares because otherwise someone is deprived of their enjoyment?"

And scantily dressed. DO NOT forget, scantily dressed.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by Aviator1211

I'm sure no one would fault someone with dementia (and I suspect their caretakers would seat them towards the back). But, there is no excuse for an attention seeker getting their attention at the expense of the band and everyone else trying to enjoy the band.

Have you spent any time with a dementia human? They can become very violent, screaming, hitting, attacking. Once you have been attacked by what seemed like a very calm person, Mark is a piece of cake.

If you truly think the caregiver of a dementia human can control them when something sets them off, you so lack first hand experience.

Try dealing with that 24/7. You have the ability to try entertainment elsewhere, makes your life so much easier than other's. Even though your night may not be perfect, I guarantee someone else is much worse

[TraceJustice]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Asperger's Syndrome: Symptoms, Diagnosis and Treatment.

Sounds like Mark has this disease. My mother was a Special Ed. teacher in Reno, Nevada and with some adults here in the Villages through a program at one of the local Catholic Churches.

I did meet a number of her students in Reno and also here in the Villages. One of them lives close by to us.

I have an Asperger's child. Screaming like that has nothing to do with Asperger's. They do have aggression issues sometimes if things don't go their way or you make them mad (melt downs). If this guy is just sitting there screaming for no reason (such as in a fit) then it's not Asperger's.

[I'm Popeye!]

Originally Posted by thelegges

They can become very violent, screaming, hitting, attacking. Once you have been attacked by what seemed like a very calm person, Mark is a piece of cake.

Yes, THEY can...

[Aviator1211]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

What makes you assert he is an attention seeker? He is there to enjoy the music along with others.

If I have a man or woman loudly talking to the screen when I am at a movie theater, I usually just leave the theater. If others have to endure this I would get an attendant if there is one around and have her ask them to be quiet.

This man with Asperger's though is at a band playing at a Villages' Square. He has a right to be there.

Umm ... because he seeks attention.

You seem very conflicted, you are ok with someone disrupting the music on the square, but you report someone disrupting a movie?

He definitely has a right to be there. But just like those that disrupt a movie, he has no right to disrupt the performance.