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Any idea in how to get rid of Hawks?
Yeah, quit feeding the birds.

We have bluebird house and between the hawks and black birds,
many hatchings never survive when bird feeders are up.
My neighbors have bird blues and refuse to feed them but never told me why.
Now I know

Bird feeders attract trouble for other birds when they are nesting
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Hawks are federally protected. Big fine for intentionally killing, less for accidentally killing.
As far as I know all birds of prey are protected.
And the meat is not as tender or tasty as chicken.
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As a seller, I don't know how you could verify items 2, 3, and 5. I don't think you need to do a background check for a private sale. The safest thing to do would be to require the buyer to have a Florida concealed carry permit.
The safest thing to do is use an FFL, and get a background check. Put the transfer on their books.
It’s worth the fee.
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We love animals and birds. We have a multilevel birdhouse in our back that has provided shelter and breeding for little House Sparrows. They are so cute and lively. There have been at least 10 broods of these birds over the past few years. Lots of babies hatched. Matter of fact one of the condos has three little ones now chirping for their food.

We also have a nice bird feeder in our front yard. They and other birds love it.

But. Yesterday we saw a Hawk loitering around, and in the afternoon had a little bird in his mouth on our driveway and then finally flew off. We’ve seen Hawks before but never one with (one of our birds) for lunch. Yuck.

Yes, it’s nature and circle of life, but….

If I see another Hawk nearby I may go out to get a shotgun. Gotta protect our little birdies.

Any idea in how to get rid of Hawks?
Do not fire off a weapon in The Villages; probably won’t end well if you are caught.
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Tongue in check statement has been turned into a lesson on how to buy and sell a long gun and a handgun.
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don't shoot the protected birds.
I think I've read where some people have put some screening around the bird houses and leave enough room for the birds to fly in and out, but yet small enough where predators cannot access the nesting area. Seems it could work.

Protect Backyard Birds From Hawks.

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I think you just need a bill of sale, signed by the buyer and seller. As a seller, I would require identification and include the serial number on the bill of sale.

If I were selling a handgun, I would also require the buyer to have a current concealed carry permit in Florida. That way, you know the buyer has a legal right to own a firearm.
When I buy I take a cell phone pic of the sellers DL with the firearm. Save to a few places..
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We love animals and birds. We have a multilevel birdhouse in our back that has provided shelter and breeding for little House Sparrows. They are so cute and lively. There have been at least 10 broods of these birds over the past few years. Lots of babies hatched. Matter of fact one of the condos has three little ones now chirping for their food.

We also have a nice bird feeder in our front yard. They and other birds love it.

But. Yesterday we saw a Hawk loitering around, and in the afternoon had a little bird in his mouth on our driveway and then finally flew off. We’ve seen Hawks before but never one with (one of our birds) for lunch. Yuck.
You're the problem NOT the Hawk!!Yes, it’s nature and circle of life, but….

If I see another Hawk nearby I may go out to get a shotgun. Gotta protect our little birdies.

Any idea in how to get rid of Hawks?
.You're the problem NOT the Hawk!
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For the sale to be legal:

1. Both buyer and seller must be (primary) residents of Florida.

2. Neither buyer nor seller can have a felony conviction on his/her record.

3. Neither buyer nor seller can be habitually addicted to illegal drugs or alcohol.

4. Both must be at least 21 years of age.

5. Neither can be under indictment for a felony.

If you meet these conditions and the gun is a legally owned gun, then you don't NEED to have any paperwork done to make the sale.

However, I would recommend that you draw up a simple Bill of Sale stating what is being sold, who the buyer and seller are, date of the sale, and amount gun is being sold for. Then both Buyer and Seller sign the Bill of Sale and furnish a copy of the Bill of Sale to each for their records.

I'm not an attorney and this is not to be construed as legal advice.
Here is a clarification of a couple of things in my previous post (shown above). The federal law is actually LESS restrictive than I indicated above. The seller does NOT have to verify items 2, 3, or 5 above.

It is only required that the seller not KNOWLINGLY sell to someone who would otherwise be disqualified by the issues listed in items 2, 3, or 5 above. In other words, you don't have to do a background check on the buyer.

"Under federal law, private gun sales between unlicensed people are legal so long as (1) the buyer lives in the same state as the seller, and (2) the seller doesn't know (or have reason to believe) that the buyer is prohibited from having a gun. Federal law requires no background checks for these private, intrastate transactions, but many states do."

Is it illegal to buy a gun for someone else? | CriminalDefenseLawyer.com


As for complying with Florida state law, it's the same as the federal law.

"The only requirements are 1) the buyer must be 21 years or older; and 2) the buyer must not be a prohibited person. What if you did not know your neighbor was convicted of a felony many years ago? Could you get in trouble for selling him your Glock? No, only your neighbor would be committing a felony. However, if you knew that he was a prohibited person and you decided to sell the gun to him anyway, then you both are committing felonies. The law does not require you to ask the buyer if he or she is a prohibited person, but if you know you cannot complete the sale."

Selling a Gun In a Pandemic | Florida - U.S. LawShield

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Old 06-22-2023, 04:37 AM
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Good grief...leave the hawk alone. Circle of life and all that...enough said.
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Stop feeding the birds. You are creating the situation.
There is plenty of natural food around to keep them all going.
Birds congregating at food sources will attract predators.
The only time I give any help to our local bird life is when ground is frozen or covered in snow, and then it is minimal and stopped as soon as conditions change.
Fortunately we only have one cat roaming in our area, and he is so fat and lazy, he's not a problem.
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Hawks are federally protected. Big fine for intentionally killing, less for accidentally killing.
As far as I know all birds of prey are protected.
Happy to hear this. Can you imagine shotguns with our properties so close together?!!! BAAAAAAAAAD idea.
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we love animals and birds. We have a multilevel birdhouse in our back that has provided shelter and breeding for little house sparrows. They are so cute and lively. There have been at least 10 broods of these birds over the past few years. Lots of babies hatched. Matter of fact one of the condos has three little ones now chirping for their food.

We also have a nice bird feeder in our front yard. They and other birds love it.

But. Yesterday we saw a hawk loitering around, and in the afternoon had a little bird in his mouth on our driveway and then finally flew off. We’ve seen hawks before but never one with (one of our birds) for lunch. Yuck.

Yes, it’s nature and circle of life, but….

If i see another hawk nearby i may go out to get a shotgun. Gotta protect our little birdies.

Any idea in how to get rid of hawks?
the laws of natural selection
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