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Old 09-08-2017, 12:00 AM
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If any residents of The Villages have a connection with the powers that be in The Villages, try to get an answer to the most important question: Factoring in the current high level of the retention ponds, how many inches of rain can we have before houses begin to flood in the most susceptible village?

Actually, we should have that information available to us for every village, because without it, we cannot make much use of weather predictions of X inches of rain.

BTW, some seem to think that having a drain grate near your house in the road or your backyard somehow means your house could not be flooded. Maybe some drains go to a big lake, but most here simply go to a nearby retention pond, and when that pond is overflowing, don't expect your local drain to be of much good unless your house is on a hill or higher plateau.
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If any residents of The Villages have a connection with the powers that be in The Villages, try to get an answer to the most important question: Factoring in the current high level of the retention ponds, how many inches of rain can we have before houses begin to flood in the most susceptible village?

Actually, we should have that information available to us for every village, because without it, we cannot make much use of weather predictions of X inches of rain.

BTW, some seem to think that having a drain grate near your house in the road or your backyard somehow means your house could not be flooded. Maybe some drains go to a big lake, but most here simply go to a nearby retention pond, and when that pond is overflowing, don't expect your local drain to be of much good unless your house is on a hill or higher plateau.
If, your home location is normally wet-puddles on your lawn etc, It will be wetter.

Will your storm drains take all the water? That depends on original design and residents as well as workers dumping trash-soda, water bottles, etc down the storm drains.

GONNA BE A TEST. Your house and property was BUILT to a certain spec. BUT, what about stuff added later-SOLAR COLLECTORS? POOLS? LAWN DECOR? PLANTINGS? SATELLITE DISHES? GLASSED IN LINAI?
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Old 09-08-2017, 09:34 AM
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We're so flat rain is not a concern, but tornados that can span from a huricane will be the culpri of destruction. I will hope real hard that we are all safe.
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If any residents of The Villages have a connection with the powers that be in The Villages, try to get an answer to the most important question: Factoring in the current high level of the retention ponds, how many inches of rain can we have before houses begin to flood in the most susceptible village?

Actually, we should have that information available to us for every village, because without it, we cannot make much use of weather predictions of X inches of rain.

BTW, some seem to think that having a drain grate near your house in the road or your backyard somehow means your house could not be flooded. Maybe some drains go to a big lake, but most here simply go to a nearby retention pond, and when that pond is overflowing, don't expect your local drain to be of much good unless your house is on a hill or higher plateau.
I do not SEE any plan being put together. No effort to trim the palms or remove the spanish moss from the large oaks around here. That moss when wet is a lot of weight for the tree to hold up. Add expected 60-????? mph winds oh and wet ground, we will surely have a lot of downed trees.

We checked with the rec centers and were told THEY WILL BE CLOSED.
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There may not be anyone available to answer that question in The Villages offices. You would probably need to talk with someone with a hydrology or civil engineering background with access to the infrastructure design and the assumptions that went into the design. It may turn out that getting any sort of detailed information could take some time. Our retention pond has what I believe is a weir but I am not sure where it flows to and, more importantly, what the water level is of where it flows to. We are currently about 3-4 feet below the top of the weir.

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If any residents of The Villages have a connection with the powers that be in The Villages, try to get an answer to the most important question: Factoring in the current high level of the retention ponds, how many inches of rain can we have before houses begin to flood in the most susceptible village?

Actually, we should have that information available to us for every village, because without it, we cannot make much use of weather predictions of X inches of rain.

BTW, some seem to think that having a drain grate near your house in the road or your backyard somehow means your house could not be flooded. Maybe some drains go to a big lake, but most here simply go to a nearby retention pond, and when that pond is overflowing, don't expect your local drain to be of much good unless your house is on a hill or higher plateau.

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Old 09-08-2017, 10:18 AM
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Rain is a concern. The Villages is not perfectly flat. When the ponds fill, water will begin flooding the lowest areas, and the more it rains thereafter, the more streets and houses will flood.
The size and depth of the ponds should have been determined based upon an assumption of some maximum amount of rain. The question is, what amount of rain were they designed to handle.
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Since they are in lowering the levels of several retention ponds. Obviously they believe that the ponds will not hold this amount of stormwater.
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I called the "public safety" number today, and got referred to another office and then another. No one knew the answer. The last said she will ask a supervisor to call me back, hopefully by "tomorrow"!
I was repeatedly told that TV is working hard to lower the ponds as fast as they can, but no one could say that that will prevent flooding. Could it be that no one in authority has done the math, and no one knows what amount of rain will cause houses to flood?
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I called the "public safety" number today, and got referred to another office and then another. No one knew the answer. The last said she will ask a supervisor to call me back, hopefully by "tomorrow"!
I was repeatedly told that TV is working hard to lower the ponds as fast as they can, but no one could say that that will prevent flooding. Could it be that no one in authority has done the math, and no one knows what amount of rain will cause houses to flood?
Good grief, NOBODY can promise you that that will prevent flooding. What do you want, a written guarantee? Why keep pestering these people with useless questions while they are frantically trying to get The Villages hunkered down and safe?
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I agree. The Villages is working diligently to prepare for the storm
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Good grief, NOBODY can promise you that that will prevent flooding. What do you want, a written guarantee? Why keep pestering these people with useless questions while they are frantically trying to get The Villages hunkered down and safe?
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Good grief, NOBODY can promise you that that will prevent flooding. What do you want, a written guarantee? Why keep pestering these people with useless questions while they are frantically trying to get The Villages hunkered down and safe?
As for flooding....I doubt anyone can give you the answer you're looking for. This storm is the largest/strongest in recorded history! "They" don't have anything to compare with. Do we all have anxiety? I would expect so but be prepared for the worst and pray for the best!!
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Good grief, NOBODY can promise you that that will prevent flooding. What do you want, a written guarantee? Why keep pestering these people with useless questions while they are frantically trying to get The Villages hunkered down and safe?
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The pond level behind our house was almost dry this summer. I do know they move water from one area to another. And will run sprinklers to lower the water. Since this will be the largest storm, no one can predict what will happen. But come Sunday you will have all the answers on flooding, power, and damage just look out your window and hope everyone south of us got to safer ground
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