[Babubhat]

It’s why we pay absurd amount taxes and get little in return

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Diseases? Don't think you can catch any of the conditions you mentioned.
I can't understand why all the God fearing, Bible quoting Super Christians from the "What happens when I die" thread" are not down at the bridge offering comfort and shelter.
Many are on this thread looking for ways to kick them out.
Not very Christian!

They ARE offered shelter----they REFUSE
And feel free to offer them "comfort"----somewhere else

You don't rid a community of a herd of feral cats by feeding them.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

215 replies and no pictures or visual documentation. Really?

All this over one homeless dude...

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Altavia

All this over one homeless dude...

If only it were just one

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

They ARE offered shelter----they REFUSE
And feel free to offer them "comfort"----somewhere else

You don't rid a community of a herd of feral cats by feeding them.

Offer them a room and a Guest Pass in your house. They'll take it.
Not sure about feeding them, but I'd lock the drinks cabinet.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Offer them a room and a Guest Pass in your house. They'll take it.
Not sure about feeding them, but I'd lock the drinks cabinet.

I'd rather offer them a guest pass to San Francisco, and give them a drink cabinet as a roadie

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I'd rather offer them a guest pass to San Francisco, and give them a drink cabinet as a roadie

Great idea, bus them to localities where there are more kindred spirits, a more open and welcoming environment, make everyone happy,same obvious logic applies to illegal aliens.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility. It was a question of logistics, not of morals. I wasn't asking where the police will drop them off. I wasn't asking where we feel they /should/ go.

I'm asking - in the most literal sense possible - where do you think they WILL go, if they are ordered to leave the place they currently occupy? Where do you expect them to show up? Are you okay with them showing up in your back yard? Because - if they're not in "location A" they will certainly need to go to "location B." And if those homeless people decide that your back yard is a perfect "location B" to be, then that's where they'll show up next.

My question is because - they are in "Location A." They weren't born there. They weren't raised in the woods by wild boars or whatever else you think is in those woods. They WENT there. That means they CAME FROM somewhere else.

If you kick them out of there, they will need to go - somewhere else.

My question is - where do people presume these homeless people will go, once they are no longer to be where they currently are?

Where they go is up to them, unless they are on your property, you may not like the decisions someone else make about who they allow on their property but that is their choice just as the "homeless" make decisions on how and where they live, I have property rights they have freedom of movement, I will not interfere with their rights they have no right to interfere with my rights,, what's your complaint??

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

Great idea, bus them to localities where there are more kindred spirits, a more open and welcoming environment, make everyone happy,same obvious logic applies to illegal aliens.

EXACTLY!!!!

That's not to say homelessness is a great way of life, that it isn't a problem, and that shuffling them off elsewhere is a solution.
But.......while we as a society figure out what to do, let's figure it out ELSEWHERE. I wonder how long the illegal aliens were allowed to stay at Marth's Vineyard. Would the homeless be welcome in Key Biscayne or get to stay there very long???? How about Hyannisport? Beverly Hills?

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

EXACTLY!!!!

That's not to say homelessness is a great way of life, that it isn't a problem, and that shuffling them off elsewhere is a solution.
But.......while we as a society figure out what to do, let's figure it out ELSEWHERE. I wonder how long the illegal aliens were allowed to stay at Marth's Vineyard. Would the homeless be welcome in Key Biscayne or get to stay there very long???? How about Hyannisport? Beverly Hills?

Martha's Vineyard would not have the 50 or so Venezuelan illegals flown there from San Antonio, TX and ASAP shipped them to Joint Base Cape Cod. lol

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Martha's Vineyard would not have the 50 or so Venezuelan illegals flown there from San Antonio, TX and ASAP shipped them to Joint Base Cape Cod. lol

My point exactly. I like to think of The Villages as closer to Martha's Vineyard than Haight-Ashbury

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Easy answer, they will follow the path of least resistance that supports their lifestyle. On to the next spot, looking for handouts and/or lack of law enforcement.

If the laws are enforced everywhere, and the hand outs dry up, guess what, maybe they will actually apply for one of the many jobs that are currently available and get a legitimate place to live? Wouldn’t that be nice!

Yes. The next spot. Do you know where that next spot will be? This all stems from the mentality of "I don't care where they go, as long as they leave where they are."

That is a common thread, in this thread. They just want them gone from Location1. They don't care where Location 2 is.

And my argument is that it's a really really myopic perception that leads them to this opinion.

No, they won't be going to Portland. They can't afford it. If they could afford the trip to Portland they'd be living in a rented apartment right here, and not be homeless.

They will go wherever their feet can carry them. In Location 1, and even at the local police department where they're let out of jail and told to seek residency elsewhere, there is no mass transit. There's no Greyhound, there's no city bus, there's no airport, there's no shuttle. They don't have their own cars.

They will be staying in the area, whether they're in Location 1 or Location 2, or Locations 5-27.

They'll go somewhere local, stay a few days til they're kicked out, and move to ANOTHER somewhere local.

As long as people continue to insist that they don't care where they are, as long as it's not "here." - the homeless will continue to do that. At some point in time, that "Location X" will be in your neighborhood. Right now they're in the Chitty Chatty area. Next, they'll be in Fenny. After that, maybe they'll move northeast and end up in the Rohan area. Could be this time next year they'll be hanging out under the water oaks at Lopez Legacy CC.

And that's all because people "don't care where they go, as long as it isn't here." I care where they go. I don't want them in MY neighborhood. I'm willing to help, in my limited budget way, to get them some SPECIFIC place where they can be safe, not a nuisance to anywhere else, with the ability to shower, find clothing, food, shelter, SAFETY (remember a lot of these homeless are stark raving bonkers - if you were one of the unfortunate sane people who ended up on the streets, would YOU want to shelter with the dangerous addicts? Or would you rather take your chances in the woods?), and resources to get themselves back up on their feet and contributing to society again, getting jobs, paying rent, buying things with earned money, and thus improving the economy.

Even converting one of the older motels in the general area into some kind of halfway home, with a social worker on premises, would be better than forcing them into shelters or to some wooded area down the road from where they were kicked out.

[retiredguy123]

The problem with providing the homeless with a nice shelter or hotel room, and food, etc., is that it will attract more homeless people to come here. They may sleep in the shelter, but they will be roaming the streets during the day. This would cause a lot of people who came here for a quiet retirement to feel uncomfortable and unsafe. If that situation were to happen in The Villages, I, for one, would move somewhere else. I have a lot of options as to where I can live. But, I am not in favor of making The Villages area a homeless friendly place.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yes. The next spot. Do you know where that next spot will be? This all stems from the mentality of "I don't care where they go, as long as they leave where they are."

That is a common thread, in this thread. They just want them gone from Location1. They don't care where Location 2 is.

And my argument is that it's a really really myopic perception that leads them to this opinion.

No, they won't be going to Portland. They can't afford it. If they could afford the trip to Portland they'd be living in a rented apartment right here, and not be homeless.

They will go wherever their feet can carry them. In Location 1, and even at the local police department where they're let out of jail and told to seek residency elsewhere, there is no mass transit. There's no Greyhound, there's no city bus, there's no airport, there's no shuttle. They don't have their own cars.

They will be staying in the area, whether they're in Location 1 or Location 2, or Locations 5-27.

They'll go somewhere local, stay a few days til they're kicked out, and move to ANOTHER somewhere local.

As long as people continue to insist that they don't care where they are, as long as it's not "here." - the homeless will continue to do that. At some point in time, that "Location X" will be in your neighborhood. Right now they're in the Chitty Chatty area. Next, they'll be in Fenny. After that, maybe they'll move northeast and end up in the Rohan area. Could be this time next year they'll be hanging out under the water oaks at Lopez Legacy CC.

And that's all because people "don't care where they go, as long as it isn't here." I care where they go. I don't want them in MY neighborhood. I'm willing to help, in my limited budget way, to get them some SPECIFIC place where they can be safe, not a nuisance to anywhere else, with the ability to shower, find clothing, food, shelter, SAFETY (remember a lot of these homeless are stark raving bonkers - if you were one of the unfortunate sane people who ended up on the streets, would YOU want to shelter with the dangerous addicts? Or would you rather take your chances in the woods?), and resources to get themselves back up on their feet and contributing to society again, getting jobs, paying rent, buying things with earned money, and thus improving the economy.

Even converting one of the older motels in the general area into some kind of halfway home, with a social worker on premises, would be better than forcing them into shelters or to some wooded area down the road from where they were kicked out.

While I applaud your empathy for these people, I still think The Villages cannot be the place where society figures out how to handle the problem. By doing so it would create a Mecca for the homeless. Personally, I am in favor of dumping them on the doorstep of those who created the problem, but naturally I cannot state who they are on this forum. I also think that as a group they are a LOT more mobile than you think----Many migrate north-south with the seasons. Just think how many gathered in Denver or Portland with changes in the marijuana laws.

I am not referring to those who are temporarily homeless, had jobs that they lost, and are looking to find another and re-enter normal society. I am referring to the hardcore professionally homeless who embrace their lifestyle. And the last thing we need here are a gaggle of social workers, do-gooders, and other assorted bleeding hearts.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

If only it were just one

Maybe I missed more than one being reported?

Certainly no evidence of an encampment as sensationalized by the OP.

I saw law enforcement at the bridge two days later and no reports since.