Are you certain your pain is only muscular? Many years ago I began having knee pain. What I am going to say I know is not what you asked for, BUT, a friend in the medical field told me I should take Glucosamine (1500 mg) / Chondroitin (1200mg) with, and this is a must, MSM included. I have been taking this for about 15 years now . I am active, playing tennis, etc. and have little to no knee pain. I have found that creams, balms, etc. do not work for me. Probably our conditions differ. For whatever it is worth, and I wish you well.

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My massage therapist recommended this company for CBD products: Sunsoil - Organic CBD Oil - Made In Vermont

I am a nurse, so here is what I know, heat for muscle pain, ice for joint (inflammation) pain. Ice can be applied for as long as you want, heat 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off is the rule. Voltaren ( generic is Diclofenac & can be bought everywhere, but cheapest is Walmart’s brand) is an anti-inflammatory medication. This is the topical version of Motrin, Aleve, Ibuprofen meds. This definitely helps if inflammation is the problem. However, most people don’t read the instructions & don’t use enough & rub it in per the instructions. The trick is everyone reacts to topicals differently so it may or may not work for each individual. That being said, joint pain is tough but the rule of thumb in the medical community is ICE…Ice, Compression, Elevation. Good luck. This getting old sucks. 😉

Yes this is what my wife uses. When we travel she picks up some because you can get stronger ones than in the U.S.

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Is there a way that I can get in touch with you?. I have a question that I’m hoping you can give me some guidance on.

Knee pain
 

Arnica can be taken orally or used topically in a cream. Frankincese oil topically . Move Free Ultra tablets may help but that’s a long term aid. Hope you get relief soon.

I have used this for years and find it effective.
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I successfully use DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) for most issues. It's a natural product, and before using it, I highly recommend reading a little booklet: "Healing with DMSO" by Amandha Vollmer. Both are available on Amazon.

DMSO is derived from wood and is a by-product of paper making. It is a powerful free radical scavenger and an effective anti-inflammatory agent. It also has pain-relieving, collagen-softening, and anti-inflammatory characteristics, making it an incredibly effective natural pain reliever. Dimethyl Sulfoxide (DMSO) is a colorless and transparent fluid that must be diluted before use.

Regarding CBD, I go to the "Pharm Stand" in Brownwood. I call it the CBD pharmacy. You can ask them questions, and it's a reputable company that I trust.

Good luck!

I know you're asking about topical applications, but for me it's all about daily stretching of the thigh muscles to keep knee pain at bay. Picking up the foot and gently reaching your heel towards your buttock and holding for a minute until the stretched feeling subsides. If it doesn't feel better in a minute try again with less stretch tension. I wish you well Tinker.

Before self-medicating your self-diagnosis, see an orthopedic (knee) specialist. Osteoarthritis is a common cause of knee joint pain in seniors, which will feel like it is muscular. Another cause could actually be in the hips and not the knees. All it takes is an x-ray. I would recommend seeing Optimotion Orthopaedics. They have an office conveniently located on Rt 44E near Brownwood. If osteoarthritis is your problem, then there are various treatments available.

I had both knees replaced in 2022 after probably 5 years of pain and some loss of motion. Zero pain since then. Yes, I tried chondroitin, etc. first. Results vary depending on fitness and rehab. I returned to full athletic activity 6 weeks after each replacement. Age 70. Fit. Played two hours of pickleball each day for four months before the first replacement.

Hi! I had an issue with knee pain. I saw a Physical Therapist who diagnosed my issue as weakness in my hips and prescribed exercises to strengthen my hips. Many times knee pain is a symptom of an issue, as opposed to the source of the issue. My knee issue stopped me from running. I am pretty vigilant about hip exercises and am now back to running. It’s my hope this is helpful.

The stretching advice above is also excellent. Stretching also strengthens. Best to try to go after the cause first.

Knee pain
 

Try across the counter glucosamine chondroitin!

It gave me 10 years pain free before I had to undergo a knee replacement. You have to take it daily for 3 months before you notice any real difference. My Physical Therapist told me it would give me 5-10 years before needing surgery. She was right. I hear from some it does not work. For the majority it does work.

Bobanfbrad.com. Look up their knee pain relief program. They are both physical therapists. You can often relieve knee pain by rebuilding muscle. You will be surprised how much it can help

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I buy Diclofenac on Amazon for my arthritis and other deep pain in my hands & knees. It works within minutes and lasts. It’s an orange tube and it contains a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory (common in well known products like Voltaren and others). Buying this version works better and is cheaper. Please try it!

Voltaren OTC… is available at Walgreens. It’s an ointment with 1% lidocaine in it. I think the massaging it in helps as well. Good luck.