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ribil 02-22-2025 12:57 PM

This is most predominant in the snowbird season due to the heavier traffic. Each roundabout has a sign proceeding the roundabout that instructs you what lanes to use for where you’re going. Available that explains how to navigate a roundabout. Can you imagine if golf carts shared our roads?

VApeople 02-22-2025 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Amylag (Post 2410805)
I would like to put it out there to folks that are in the far-left lane coming into the roundabout and then decide to get off in that same left lane crossing over the right lane traffic that a directional WOULD BE HELPFUL!!!!!!! As a matter of fact, a DIRECTIONAL WOULD ALWAYS BE HELPFUL.

I think things are fine just as they are.

We have lived here for 9 years and have never had a problem driving thru a roundabout. Sure, other ignorant or inconsiderate drivers sometimes cause a problem, but since I always have my hand on the horn, I often honk at them and keep honking until they stop or get out of my way.

jimjamuser 02-22-2025 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2410881)
That I think is the inherent problem with roundabouts it is a matter of judgment, add to that the drivers who HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, , my experience is that these drivers also seem to be traveling somewhat faster than the flow of traffic

I would prefer that ALL roundabouts be single lane. If traffic is too high for SINGLE lane roundabouts, then put up RED LIGHTS.

davide0721 02-22-2025 02:25 PM

Follow the lines
 
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Originally Posted by Amylag (Post 2410805)
I would like to put it out there to folks that are in the far-left lane coming into the roundabout and then decide to get off in that same left lane crossing over the right lane traffic that a directional WOULD BE HELPFUL!!!!!!! As a matter of fact, a DIRECTIONAL WOULD ALWAYS BE HELPFUL.

If the dotted white lines go out the exit then the car in that lane has the right of way to exit. If the dotted white lines continue around the roundabout the left lane can exit but must yield to the outer lane continuing around.

rsmurano 02-22-2025 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2411066)
It’s not that they decide to exit from that lane, it’s the correct and lawful way to do it. But I agree they should use their turn signal.

No it’s not legal to make the 1st exit from the left lane, I don’t care if you have a turn signal on, or you have people with orange flashlights telling you you can exit. You can’t, and if you can’t abide by the traffic laws you shouldn’t be driving.

rsmurano 02-22-2025 02:48 PM

No you can’t, read the signs. EVERY sign before a roundabout has the SAME sign that shows you you cannot take the 1st exit. Do you know why there is a dotted line? I guess you don’t! It is for the people that need to get out of the left lane to make the 2nd or 3rd exit. If you understand roundabouts, there needs to be a way for the left lane to get out of the left lane to make the 2nd or 3rd exit or you will be going in circles forever. So, that’s why you have the dotted lines.
Certain people shouldn’t be driving

Bill14564 02-22-2025 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2411214)
No it’s not legal to make the 1st exit from the left lane, I don’t care if you have a turn signal on, or you have people with orange flashlights telling you you can exit. You can’t, and if you can’t abide by the traffic laws you shouldn’t be driving.

Might want to rethink the orange flashlight assertion.

Bill14564 02-22-2025 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by davide0721 (Post 2411212)
If the dotted white lines go out the exit then the car in that lane has the right of way to exit. If the dotted white lines continue around the roundabout the left lane can exit but must yield to the outer lane continuing around.

Rule: The left lane/inner should NEVER need to yield to the right/outer lane - if everyone is driving correctly there should NEVER be a conflict.

Reality: It is highly likely that someone WON'T be driving correctly. While the left lane should not have to yield, I wouldn't want to sit on the witness stand and explain that I intentionally caused a collision because I had the right of way.

62SkiDoo 02-22-2025 03:42 PM

Don't over think it.

There is one and only one rule. It is not my opinion. It is the law.

And that is any vehicle already in the traffic circle has the right of way. This means that any vehicle approaching a traffic circle must yield.

However, there is an implicit corollary exception to this rule. And that is unless you are absolutely certain of the intentions of that vehicle already in the traffic circle.

For example, you are in the far right lane approaching the traffic circle. Your intention is not to make a right turn, but to enter the traffic circle and continue on the outer right lane. However, a vehicle is already in the inner left lane of the traffic circle but approaching from your left. At that point, you do not have a clear idea whether the driver intends to continue on the inner lane or make the right onto the main road. But at the point where the driver already in the traffic circle is past the point where a right turn can be made, you can then reasonably assume that you can also safely enter the traffic circle without colliding with a vehicle turning right in front of you. That is unless another vehicle has already entered the circle and then you will have to continue to wait. So, yes, there is a factor of judgement in the equation.

The scary thing is when I witness people approaching a traffic circle while I am already in it and never even look to the left. Their faces are fixated entirely on where they want to go instead of also on what's coming.

Another issue is hesitation. But this can be forgiven in light of the age of many drivers and their legitimate safety concerns both for themselves and others. So I often have to hit my patience and compassion button.

But I think the traffic circles are something everyone can do without.

fdpaq0580 02-22-2025 07:12 PM

Many, if not most, problems and agrivation would disappear IF everyone would follow the signs advice at every RB entrance. 20 mph!
Some folks shoot through RBs at 45 or more, "straightening" the curve by switching lanes left and right.
See it every day, sad to say.

fdpaq0580 02-22-2025 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2411211)
I would prefer that ALL roundabouts be single lane. If traffic is too high for SINGLE lane roundabouts, then put up RED LIGHTS.

I feel your pain! But, few Villagers, I fear, would be able to stand the extreme test of human or Christian decency or courtesy by allowing others to MERGE (right, left, right, left, etc). If one's acts of simple decency while driving was one's test to get into Heaven, I fear the Lord would be very lonely. Amen!

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-22-2025 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Janie123 (Post 2411059)
Sounds like she did not yield to you as she was chaining lanes but you too were crossing a dotted line and were in the wrong as well.

Google Maps

Awesome, you have an overhead map with cars on it. So zoom in to see the top of that roundabout. 441 is toward your right. El Camino Real is sorta northish (on that map, it's not straight up toward the top of the page).

See where there are cars entering from that right leg, and the right leg also has an exit and the whole leg is sort of in a triangular shape (there's a golf cart MMP lane that runs the entire perimeter of the roundabout, that's a spot where golf carts can wait for traffic to finish entering the circle)? Well my car was already OUT of that right leg, ON the roundabout. In the RIGHT lane, coming FROM the RIGHT lane of the leg. I didn't cross over any lines. The lady who cut me off hadn't even gotten to that right leg's exit yet, when I had begun to enter it. SHE was in the LEFT lane. The INNER lane. SHE crossed the dotted line, not me. See the car immediately to the right of the google red marker? That was the lane I was in, but I hadn't gotten that far yet. See the car that's IN the roundabout, right at the spot where it says Morse Blvd on the right? That's the INNER lane, and the lady who tried to cross in front of me, hadn't gotten as far as where that car is on the map, when I had already turned into the roundabout.

And so - I was already in the roundabout when she came around the curve. I was in the outer lane. She was in the inner lane. She crossed the dotted line trying to cut me off.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-22-2025 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Janie123 (Post 2411062)
Wrong.. it is legal to change lanes as long as the lines are dotted and use your signal. There are many times you enter in the left lane from a 4 lane road and need to exit to a single lane. Do not cross solid white lines.

That only applies to roads that exit to a single lane. Where we were - there were TWO lanes after the exit. If you're in the inner lane of the roundabout, you stay there to exit to the "left" lane of the exit, onto a 2-lane road. If you're on the outer lane of the roundabout, you stay there to exit to the "right" lane of the exit, onto a 2-lane road.

The only exception on THAT roundabout, is Paige Place, where the roundabout exits from a 2-lane roundabout to a 1-lane road.

fdpaq0580 02-22-2025 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2411302)
That only applies to roads that exit to a single lane. Where we were - there were TWO lanes after the exit. If you're in the inner lane of the roundabout, you stay there to exit to the "left" lane of the exit, onto a 2-lane road. If you're on the outer lane of the roundabout, you stay there to exit to the "right" lane of the exit, onto a 2-lane road.

The only exception on THAT roundabout, is Paige Place, where the roundabout exits from a 2-lane roundabout to a 1-lane road.

So, you were already fully in the RB lane 2, traveling at X mph when she appeared in RB lane 1, attempted to pass you in an effort to exit ahead of you? That's what it sounds like you are describing. She must have been flying.
And she did not appear until after you committed to entering the RB? Sounds like obstructed view of oncoming traffic and excessive speed on the part of the other driver?
Probably late for tee time

coffeebean 02-23-2025 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2410952)
I TOTALLY AGREE if we could/would do just that one simple thing, ALWAYS use your directional signals, no matter where or what the actual law requires... we'd save a TON of money and so many LIVES. Won't stop all the nearly daily carnage here, but sure would have a huge impact ! Best part, it's a no cost solution, no additional signs, painting, road work, etc., just use signals regardless. Doing same in golf carts would also BE GREAT. One last tip, when you intend to turn right, use the RIGHT signal, not the left ! Some cars seem to use the opposite, but a LOT of golf carts definitely do. That's a killer habit for sure !

This is exactly why I do not pay any attention to directionals when in a RAB. People use the incorrect directional or don't realize their directional is still on (from a previous meneuver) when entering, while in or exiting a RAB. I use my directionals every where but a RAB. In one week of driving around The Villages, I can count on one hand the amount of people I see use directionals when driving in RABs. I prefer it that way. I just stay clear of any car when in a RAB. I vary my speed and do not drive next to any vehicle when in a RAB. I ALWAYS YIELD to any car in a RAB no matter which lane they are in. It is much safer that way.


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