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Rocksnap 02-23-2025 05:24 AM

Round abouts are small and happen quickly. Turn signals are therefore useless. Who here is going to trust someone circling one with their blinker on and pull out in front of them? I’d venture that would be a factor and the accident rate would increase.

KendallW 02-23-2025 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Amylag (Post 2410805)
I would like to put it out there to folks that are in the far-left lane coming into the roundabout and then decide to get off in that same left lane crossing over the right lane traffic that a directional WOULD BE HELPFUL!!!!!!! As a matter of fact, a DIRECTIONAL WOULD ALWAYS BE HELPFUL.

I always signal crossing over to exit the round about but came within inches of getting hit the other day. Signal or not space must be allowed when entering the round about between autos . Many still don't get it.

LoisR 02-23-2025 08:15 AM

Several years ago I asked the Villages and the Developer to place signs at the entry of roundabouts that say "Signal Your Intent." No response back.

Bill14564 02-23-2025 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 2411380)
Several years ago I asked the Villages and the Developer to place signs at the entry of roundabouts that say "Signal Your Intent." No response back.

There are so many signs now that drivers get distracted and don't see them all. The last thing we need is more!

Serious question: How would you complete this sentence:
I would have _____________ if the driver was using his signal in the roundabout.

Really, what would you do differently if you saw a driver turn his signal on?
- Would you pull in front of the vehicle before it slowed or turned because you trusted the signal?
- Would you refrain from overtaking the vehicle in the roundabout because you saw the signal?
- Would you feel better when the driver in the left lane took the first exit because he used his signals?

defrey12 02-23-2025 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2411053)
I can’t believe we are trying to justify making the 1st exit from the left lane. That is against the law and you can’t justify doing the wrong thing by putting on a turn signal. If I’m in the right lane, I can take the 2nd exit and if you want to turn into me, I will make sure your insurance company buys me a new car for ignoring traffic laws that are spelled out on a sign before each roundabout.
You will not be trying to fix my car, you will be buying me a new car. So if you can’t learn traffic laws and how to correctly navigate a roundabout, maybe you shouldn’t be driving.

Amen…

Topspinmo 02-23-2025 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2411211)
I would prefer that ALL roundabouts be single lane. If traffic is too high for SINGLE lane roundabouts, then put up RED LIGHTS.


I think all highways should be single lane…..like in 1920.. :thumbup:

Nevinator 02-23-2025 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2411301)

And so - I was already in the roundabout when she came around the curve. I was in the outer lane. She was in the inner lane. She crossed the dotted line trying to cut me off.

It seems like you have an inherent desire to prove you were right as opposed to taking some responsibility for what happened.

Here are your comments from previous posts:
In thread # 5. “I got into the roundabout while someone on my left IN the roundabout was starting their approach toward my location, and they were in the inner "left" lane.”

Thread #9. “But as I was in the process of entering the roundabout, SHE cut over to MY lane, while she was still circling the roundabout.”

Thread #26. “I saw her approaching the Paige Place entry, on the inner lane, and knew that I had plenty of time and opportunity to enter safely from the right lane to the outer lane, and continue to the Morse resident's gate, also on the right. So I went. And just as I entered the OUTER lane of the roundabout, the lady decided she was going to cut me off.”

Predicated on you last comment in #72 now you were already in the roundabout. This contradicts your three earlier posts where you indicate the other driver was in the roundabout before you entered and that you made the decision to enter based on what you thought she was going to do.

Face it, YOU should have yielded to traffic already IN the roundabout before entering. If that driver was going all the way around the roundabout (3rd exit) he/she has the right to cross the outer lane upon their exit. Now upon exiting, perhaps she crossed into the far right lane. She did have the obligation to ensure the roadway was clear, but she also had no expectation that someone would be coming on her right because she was the only one in the roundabout at the time because you hadn’t entered, or were entering concurrent to her exit.

Bottom line: Vehicles in the roundabout have absolute right of way over vehicles, about to enter the roundabout. Even if this was not the case, best practice is to always wait for vehicles in the roundabout to pass before entering. Most of us have lived here long enough to know that vehicles coming from your left that are in the roundabout, have the ability to exit from the inner lane and across the outer lane into a village or community.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-23-2025 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2411304)
So, you were already fully in the RB lane 2, traveling at X mph when she appeared in RB lane 1, attempted to pass you in an effort to exit ahead of you? That's what it sounds like you are describing. She must have been flying.
And she did not appear until after you committed to entering the RB? Sounds like obstructed view of oncoming traffic and excessive speed on the part of the other driver?
Probably late for tee time

Not quite as abruptly as that, since I did see her coming up on the Paige Place entry lane as I was pulling out of the 441 entry lane. But yeah it looked like she had sped up. It was one of those weird things - I've seen it happen to other people too. You're in your OWN lane, minding your own business, and suddenly someone in another lane further back from you decides they want to be in your lane, ahead of you. So they speed up and try to cut you off.

John Sarubbi 02-23-2025 10:44 AM

When are all the old folks in The Villages going to learn how to drive. I am so sick of being cut off by idiots crossing in front of me. When are they going to learn the simple rule: Left lane is for going straight or making a left and the right lane is for going straight or going right. Could it be any more simple?

jimjamuser 02-23-2025 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2411260)
Many, if not most, problems and agrivation would disappear IF everyone would follow the signs advice at every RB entrance. 20 mph!
Some folks shoot through RBs at 45 or more, "straightening" the curve by switching lanes left and right.
See it every day, sad to say.

I agree that there are problems to see every day on the roundabouts. They work reasonable well in the summer and 40 years ago when there were fewer residents and commercial traffic. There are several problems - one is the age of the Village residents. The saying that applies here is, "You can't teach an old dog new tricks". Most Villagers come from cities where they never see a roundabout. Then they come here to The Villages at an advanced age where they are less flexible mentally than they were in their 20s. Another problem is SPEEDING that seemed to increase after Covid and the lack of Police enforcement or speed cameras that could issue tickets. One improvement would be to make the roundabouts single lane. Then IF there were traffic backups, then that would mean that the intersection needed to be converted to traffic LIGHTS.

jimjamuser 02-23-2025 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2410951)
Absolutely, “correct thing to do is yield to every car already in the roundabout”. However, people are in a hurry and expect others to get out of their way. Works until it doesn’t. However, roundabouts are proven to be much safer than traffic signals.

I wonder if the idea that "roundabouts are safer than traffic lights" would be true if only multiple lane roundabouts were included in the study. Because single lane roundabouts are likely safer than traffic lights, but 2 lane roundabouts are probably less safe. Also, age would be a factor and seniors probably would have more accidents in roundabouts. Also, safety in roundabouts would be higher for people that drove in roundabouts at an early age.

lawgolfer 02-23-2025 11:29 AM

Think of a roundabout as 4 quarters of a pie.

When another vehicle is in the quarter or just about the enter that quarter, you are not to enter regardless of which lane the other car is in.

What you described is a classic no-no and entered the outside lane when another vehicle was in the inside lane and you were alongside that vehicle or nearly alongside it. In short, you set yourself to be cut-off by the vehicle that was in the inside lane.

For the same reason, it is a no-no to pass another vehicle when in a roundabout, particularly when you are in the outside lane. The car in the inside lane which you are passing is likely to cross-over at the next exit, again cutting you off.

The driver in the inside lane is not really "cutting you off". It is you who have broken the rules by either entering the outside lane alongside that vehicle or by passing or pulling alongside that vehicle.

Yes, it would be nice if everyone used their turn signal when exiting a roundabout. However, the cause of the problem is the driver who enters the roundabout alongside the vehicle in the inside lane or tries to pass that vehicle when in the roundabout.

fdpaq0580 02-23-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2411466)
I wonder if the idea that "roundabouts are safer than traffic lights" would be true if only multiple lane roundabouts were included in the study. Because single lane roundabouts are likely safer than traffic lights, but 2 lane roundabouts are probably less safe. Also, age would be a factor and seniors probably would have more accidents in roundabouts. Also, safety in roundabouts would be higher for people that drove in roundabouts at an early age.

"Safe" can be determined in many ways. One might conclude, for example, that one type of intersection, with 100 collisions is not as safe as another intersection with only 2 collisions. But, add the information that the intersection with 100 collisions only had minor fender-benders, while the intersection with only 2 collisions had several deaths as a result of those 2 collisions.
Maybe crowding, higher speeds, more aggressive drivers, overconfident drivers, and more, all contribute to danger on the roads.

fdpaq0580 02-23-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lawgolfer (Post 2411475)
Think of a roundabout as 4 quarters of a pie.

I like pie! 😋

Sorry. I'm easily distracted. What were we discussing?

Indydealmaker 02-23-2025 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Amylag (Post 2410805)
I would like to put it out there to folks that are in the far-left lane coming into the roundabout and then decide to get off in that same left lane crossing over the right lane traffic that a directional WOULD BE HELPFUL!!!!!!! As a matter of fact, a DIRECTIONAL WOULD ALWAYS BE HELPFUL.

That possibility is why you are never to parallel another car in the circle. Zippers, folks.

Keep at or below 20 and you will be just fine. Never pass.

The only time a car exiting in the inside lane crosses in front of another is when a car is entering the circle from the right crossing street. Even then that should never be a problem because that car coming into the circle from the right is not supposed to enter until the car in the inside lane has passed. You zipper into your lane just behind and to the right.

Remember, you are not allowed to overtake another car inside the circle


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