[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Please show me where I ever suggested "censorship"... I'll wait...

Sorry. Just the way I happened to interpret " again and again and again". The context gave me the feeling that you would prefer not having so many folks voice their opinions. Or, in other words, eliminate some/many of those voices. I saw that as a form of censorship. I guess if we were all saying the same thing, only one person needed to voice their thoughts and all the rest of us could just say "Ditto".
Personally, I enjoy reading everyone's comments. Everyone has a different point of view and see things I sometimes haven't seen or noticed.
So, my apologies. I never meant to say you were suggesting or recommending we censoring folks.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yesterday I drove across 441 to the roundabout at El Camino Real, heading onto Morse. There's a gate house there, and I was in the right lane, planning on using the resident's gate - on the right.

I got into the roundabout while someone on my left IN the roundabout was starting their approach toward my location, and they were in the inner "left" lane. They tried to go into MY lane - while they were inside the roundabout. There was absolutely no reason for this woman to move from the inner lane to the outer lane within the roundabout. She beeped at me, and yelled at me. SHE - beeped at ME.

If she had stayed in her own lane, she could've exited at the next exit, before I had gotten to it. That was WHY I entered the circle when I did. Because if she had done what she was supposed to do, everyone would've gotten in and out of the circle safely and correctly.

Moral of the story:

If you are in a 2-lane traffic circle, exiting to a 2-lane road, then stay in your lane. You have NO reason to shift lanes while you're in that circle. You can move to the right lane AFTER you exit the circle.

It would be helpful to look at that circle on Google earth. (Assuming that the circle is still marked the same), each entrance has two lanes for entrance. Assuming heavy traffic, it would appear natural for the outside vehicle to enter the outside lane, and the inside vehicle to enter the inside lane. Markings within the circle are consistent except the SE quadrant. Otherwise, they allow changing of lanes at and between entrance and exits. Comments that you can't change lane are inaccurate. So, if you are in the inner lane, you can exit at any exit.

Drivers are supposed be driving at the reduced posted speed and use proper signaling when changing or crossing lanes. Proper signaling would require you to at least be a full length ahead of the car you intend cross paths. It would also be wise to have the signal on for the full length of the dashed lines between exits. A driver behind a car signaling to exit should allow that car to exit as courtesy

We as drivers need to be aware of our positions, other driver intentions. Assumptions that are wrong can cause undesired results for all parties. Exact faults can be hard to determine. Better to go around again than incur an accident.

Trouble here is that everyone assumes they have the rightaway.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

It would be helpful to look at that circle on Google earth. (Assuming that the circle is still marked the same), each entrance has two lanes for entrance. Assuming heavy traffic, it would appear natural for the outside vehicle to enter the outside lane, and the inside vehicle to enter the inside lane. Markings within the circle are consistent except the SE quadrant. Otherwise, they allow changing of lanes at and between entrance and exits. Comments that you can't change lane are inaccurate. So, if you are in the inner lane, you can exit at any exit.

Drivers are supposed be driving at the reduced posted speed and use proper signaling when changing or crossing lanes. Proper signaling would require you to at least be a full length ahead of the car you intend cross paths. It would also be wise to have the signal on for the full length of the dashed lines between exits. A driver behind a car signaling to exit should allow that car to exit as courtesy

We as drivers need to be aware of our positions, other driver intentions. Assumptions that are wrong can cause undesired results for all parties. Exact faults can be hard to determine. Better to go around again than incur an accident.

Trouble here is that everyone assumes they have the rightaway.

I lived in the Boston area for about 25 years before retiring. The Rotary is common there and they are far more complex than those here. Yet seemingly far less controversy. Two of the things I was advised of were the need to maintain contact by vision of nearby autos and secondly, that whoever got their second was the cause of the accident. If we all thought that way, there would be far less controversy. That obviously excludes those speeding, not using signals, violating solid lines, etc.

Also note that each rotary may have different linage and require different driving rules.

[yankygrl]

Originally Posted by Amylag

I would like to put it out there to folks that are in the far-left lane coming into the roundabout and then decide to get off in that same left lane crossing over the right lane traffic that a directional WOULD BE HELPFUL!!!!!!! As a matter of fact, a DIRECTIONAL WOULD ALWAYS BE HELPFUL.

Seasonal residents, renters are back…actually saw a pickup truck at the entrance to a roundabout put on LEFT turn signal and I prayed they didn’t actually turn left. There were other cars in the circle, they did go right but then got into left lane. SCARY - be very careful.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Trouble here is that everyone assumes they have the rightaway.

Got that part right. Or, mostly right.
Sadly, there is a sizeable number of individuals who don't give a snit and just bully their way through. Beware!

[fdpaq0580]

[QUOTE=mtdjed;2412672]I lived in the Boston area for about 25 years . [QUOTE]

Okay! Boston area! Right! 😶🫥😏

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by wisbad1

As bad as golf carts turning left in front of you from cart lane.

Wouldn't it be great to have a Big Truck with a snow plow on the front when that happens. Street sweepers could clean up the mess and life goes on .... except for the ijit in the golf cart. 😃😃😃

[justjim]

I don’t trust the few people using turn signals in the roundabouts. I’ve seen too many signals that were wrong. Best not to use them although it may be recommended.