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Old 08-19-2013, 04:29 PM
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Ah. The posts after the meeting.....What if the answer is NOT what some of the more prolific posters wanted to hear??

Do you think the posters who didn't get the "right" answer will quietly disappear or will we get some interesting "spin"?

Life is sure interesting in these parts!
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The main issue in this thread is not about the multi-modal paths. It’s about whether or not a restrictive gate limited to Villagers can now be placed in that path.

And the Lady Lake town meeting is actually geared towards the fact that the wall was put up without a permit.

But from my standpoint, I’m hoping that the town rules that this is an established right of way and no barriers, fixed or selective may be laced there. We’ll see.
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The Multi-Modal Trails are Private Property. This was an entire paragraph in EdV's manifesto.
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The bonds indiduals paid when they purchase a home in The Villages which supported the infrastucture development are not tax free bonds. The tax tax free bonds issued by the VCCDD under dispute by the IRS relate to recreational and utility revenue bonds.
Roads maintained by the counties are public roads. (Marion County does not maintain those roads).
Golf cart paths are maintained through the use of amenity funds collected from Village residents which are also not tax deductable.
Your position would suggest that since tax free bonds were issued to purchase recreational facilities, anyone would be entitled to use thoseU facilities. It further implies that towns, counties, (or CDD's) are not allowed to restrict use to residents of their community.
x - from the villages district gov website:
"The infrastructure of the District in which you live was built with tax-exempt bonds. The bonds are repaid with monies collected in the annual tax bill sent out by the Sumter or Marion County Tax Collector's office and appear in the Non-Ad Valorem section of the tax bill as "Bond Debt Assessment"."
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Put all the half truths, and misleading information to bed, at the Town of Lady Lake Commission meeting at 6 pm tonight
I wouldn't bet on it.
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He can and not only that but he can give you a DUI.
From what I understand this is not the case if you are on one of the multi modal paths. Am I wrong about that?
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The main issue in this thread is not about the multi-modal paths. It’s about whether or not a restrictive gate limited to Villagers can now be placed in that path.

And the Lady Lake town meeting is actually geared towards the fact that the wall was put up without a permit.

But from my standpoint, I’m hoping that the town rules that this is an established right of way and no barriers, fixed or selective may be laced there. We’ll see.

If the Sumter County Sheriffs office, a branch of the Sumter County government, says the cart paths are private property then I prefer to adhere to their opinion.
The issue of the private or public cart paths became an issue by some upset at a gate possibly going up.
Last but not least should the resolution 98-106, or whatever it is, be said to not allow a gate my question then is just what exactly precludes the parties responsible from changing or eliminating said resolution?
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If the Sumter County Sheriffs office, a branch of the Sumter County government, says the cart paths are private property then I prefer to adhere to their opinion.
The issue of the private or public cart paths became an issue by some upset at a gate possibly going up.
Last but not least should the resolution 98-106, or whatever it is, be said to not allow a gate my question then is just what exactly precludes the parties responsible from changing or eliminating said resolution?
That’s not what the Sheriff’s office said. They have traffic jurisdiction over two types of properties. Those that are owned by the county in which they serve and those that are owned by entities in their county that have formally requested traffic jurisdiction.

Look, you know all those stop signs in the parking areas all over the place down here. Well if Publix that owns a parking lot formally requests traffic jurisdiction in there then a deputy can issue you a stop sign violation. But if Publix doesn’t grant that jurisdiction, it doesn’t change the public access status of that parking lot now does it.
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Don't you have to travel on a multi Modal Trail from paradise dr to the bridge and from the bridge to a street in Spanish Springs? I have been over there a few times to The golf course and seems like that is the case. If the multi Modal Trails are private property of the CDD'S then a gate could be erected anywhere along the trail. Oh no, not another can of worms! Of course, I'm probably wrong about this.
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How come Stone Crest has a gated golf cart path into its facilities. By mistake, I got locked in after going through an open gate and could not get out. But, many people want access to TV....HMMMMM.
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Ah. The posts after the meeting.....What if the answer is NOT what some of the more prolific posters wanted to hear??

Do you think the posters who didn't get the "right" answer will quietly disappear or will we get some interesting "spin"?

Life is sure interesting in these parts!
Gracie, allow me to go on record here that if the Town of Lady Lake rules and approves a restricted access gate, I will accept it and move on. And I won't go back on my word either.
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How come Stone Crest has a gated golf cart path into its facilities. By mistake, I got locked in after going through an open gate and could not get out. But, many people want access to TV....HMMMMM.
because their community was built with developer funding and not public dollars - and the ownership there pays for the maintenance of same, not the county.
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Paradise Dr is in Lake County. So were bonds used to build the roads?

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How come Stone Crest has a gated golf cart path into its facilities. By mistake, I got locked in after going through an open gate and could not get out. But, many people want access to TV....HMMMMM.
You were trespassing. Stonecrest is a totally owned by the Developer and the residents. It is not a CDD. Your not the Villager that broke they gate are you? We've had people ramming the gate with their cart. To access Stonecrest legally you go to the front gate and get a gate pass.
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Paradise Dr is in Lake County. So were bonds used to build the roads?
Tax Free Municipal Bonds were used to build the transportation system and infrastructure of the Villages. About $427 million starting in 1998.
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