[Advogado]

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Originally Posted by Advogado

Didn't you read about it in the Daily Sun today?

Oh, I forgot. The developer controls tthe Daily Sun, and apparently because the developer didn't want the adverse publicity, the Daily Sun suppressed all news of the story for years. This is the major story directly affecting Villagers today. But unless the Daily Sun is shamed into acting like a real newspaper, we still will probably not get any details from it.
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I absolutely disagree.

On what basis?

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by Advogado

On what basis?

How about on the basis that her opinion differs from yours. And that's what it is by-the-way...an opinion.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Didn't you read about it in the Daily Sun today?

Oh, I forgot. The developer controls tthe Daily Sun, and apparently because the developer didn't want the adverse publicity, the Daily Sun suppressed all news of the story for years. This is the major story directly affecting Villagers today. But unless the Daily Sun is shamed into acting like a real newspaper, we still will probably not get any details from it.

While the plaintiffs deserve the lion's share of the blame for the shutdown because of their frivolous lawsuit, it was the developer who made the actual decision to shut down the college and who suppressed news of the controversy for years.

I agree with you there. This is basically about $$$$ from selling houses and marketing of the idea of the Villages.

You wonder how much the founder of the Villages Harold Schwartz would like this mess. Villages' founder dies at 93 - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I agree with you there. This is basically about $$$$ from selling houses and marketing of the idea of the Villages.

You wonder how much the founder of the Villages Harold Schwartz would like this mess. Villages' founder dies at 93 - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL

The Founder, Harold Schwartz sold modular homes. He was a SALESMAN. It is o.k. to sell things and to make money. Even make a lot of money. Within the law. AND in the process create a wonderful place where older people can have an interesting and happy life.

The Lifelong Learning College closed because it was challenged to do the things the American Disability Act required it to do and it would have to raise the tuition sky high to comply.

There is a price for everything and they weren't willing to pay. I would have done the same thing if it were MY call. We can't have everything we want in this life. Sometimes the price is too high.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The Founder, Harold Schwartz sold modular homes. He was a SALESMAN. It is o.k. to sell things and to make money. Even make a lot of money. Within the law. AND in the process create a wonderful place where older people can have an interesting and happy life.

The Lifelong Learning College closed because it was challenged to do the things the American Disability Act required it to do and it would have to raise the tuition sky high to comply.

There is a price for everything and they weren't willing to pay. I would have done the same thing if it were MY call. We can't have everything we want in this life. Sometimes the price is too high.

That does not sound like a correct version. It would not have been too costly to meet the demands of the ADA as far as reasonable accommodations are concerned for the Lifelong Learning College and translators for the deaf. The reasonable part comes into play when you are talking about which classes needed translators. They should be a translator if a deaf person needs one for some class but this could have been any variety of things. It would depend on what kind of class this was. And you could write out for instance what was going to be in the lecture and ask for volunteers who knew sign language from the community. The developer did not approach this as a problem that could be solved by this community working together on it. Instead it was a competition between lawyers and law firms. Lawyers should be the last option people try; and not the first.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That does not sound like a correct version. It would not have been too costly to meet the demands of the ADA as far as reasonable accommodations are concerned for the Lifelong Learning College and translators for the deaf. The reasonable part comes into play when you are talking about which classed needed translators. They should be a translator if a deaf person needs one for some class but this could have been any variety of things. It would depend on what kind of class this was. And you could write out for instance what was going to be in the lecture and ask for volunteers who knew sign language from the community. The developer did not approach this as a problem that could be solved by this community working together on it. Instead it was a competition between lawyers and law firms. Lawyers should be the last option people try; and not the first.

???

[dirtbanker]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

.....And you could write out for instance what was going to be in the lecture and ask for volunteers who knew sign language from the community. The developer did not approach this as a problem that could be solved by this community working togethe...

The plantiffs insisted that only certified translators would be provided.

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[Taltarzac725]

The Villages' developers have a vast resource of retired experts in the Villages about many subjects as well as many available volunteers. They should have used that gold mine to save the Lifelong Learning College. This should have been done years ago.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by dirtbanker

The plantiffs insisted that only certified translators would be provided.

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How hard is it to get certified for sign language?? Become an Interpreter | Registry of Interpreters for the Deaf

It certainly sounds like the plaintiffs were unreasonable in some situations.

[Buckeye Bob]

The appeal hearing was supposed to take place in Atlanta yesterday. Does anyone know what the 32 plaintiffs were appealing?

[Carla B]

Don't know for sure, but they are probably appealing the court order granting the District's Motion for Summary Judgment concerning the Resident Lifestyle Groups (clubs). The Court agreed with the Districts that the RLGs are not public entities and, therefore, not in violation of the ADA, the Fair Housing Act, and the Rehabilation Act, as was alleged by the Plaintiffs.

[Taltarzac725]

PACER (Docket Report) | Eleventh Circuit | United States Court of Appeals

Looks like the information on the court rulings and the like costs $$.

Court opinions look to be free-- Opinions | Eleventh Circuit | United States Court of Appeals

[Oregon]

I am retiring this summer and have planned to move to The Villages for several years. However, the LLC was always a very important part of the reason I was moving there. Have there been any new developments? Do you think that this issue will be resolved and they will reopen?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Oregon

I am retiring this summer and have planned to move to The Villages for several years. However, the LLC was always a very important part of the reason I was moving there. Have there been any new developments? Do you think that this issue will be resolved and they will reopen?

No.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Oregon

I am retiring this summer and have planned to move to The Villages for several years. However, the LLC was always a very important part of the reason I was moving there. Have there been any new developments? Do you think that this issue will be resolved and they will reopen?

In some other form maybe but not for a while. I am an optimist though. There has been talk that they might be able to get back a Summer Class Schedule. Depends a lot on how the court rules on this case now with whether or not Resident Lifestyle Groups are governmental entities.