[texasfal]

I didn't say they were right, I only pointed out that there are people outside the rules. Do I agree with them - no, do I understand they didn't want their granddaughter to be involved in a do estimate violence situation - yes.

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think most people would wonder where exactly you mean? I have never seen a school bus around here in The Villages anywhere except on main arteries like 466, 441/27 or 466A..

I respectfully say that I think your post is a gross exaggeration.

I frequently see one on BV and El Camino Real. I have always assumed that it is cutting through TV to get to 441.

[Country Dreamer]

Originally Posted by texasfal

Bogie I have no idea what makes my friends special except they are nice people and they saved the child from a very bad situation. They live in fear of some one complaining and they'd have to move.

I know villages have different covenants, but I do remember reading that the no children under 19 rule living permanently in The Villages can be waived due to extenuating circumstances. This may be such a situation.

[Miles42]

I haven't seen this Phantom school bus stop either.

[Bizdoc]

Originally Posted by Country Dreamer

I know villages have different covenants, but I do remember reading that the no children under 19 rule living permanently in The Villages can be waived due to extenuating circumstances. This may be such a situation.

Not true. If it were, we'd be over run by "extenuating circumstances..." The last person who took this to court was reminded that they had signed a statement at closing about the covenants - end of story.

[Greg Nelson]

We'll be back for Nov/Dec with a resident ID...can't believe it is 32F this morning in Minnesota..ugh

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Country Dreamer

I know villages have different covenants, but I do remember reading that the no children under 19 rule living permanently in The Villages can be waived due to extenuating circumstances. This may be such a situation.

Where did you read that?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Where did you read that?

Bizdoc just offered some important information about this being challenged. Now I can't find it.

It is a deed restriction to not have children under the age of 19 live here for more than 30 days in a year.

Homes are not difficult to sell here in TV if they are offered for a fair price. People can rent out their homes. People can move nearby and when circumstances change they can return if they want to. There is always a way to do what the rules say.

There have been past discussions of grandchildren of deployed service people and children of parents who have had them removed from their custody and of other terrible situations.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Bizdoc just offered some important information about this being challenged. Now I can't find it.

It is a deed restriction to not have children under the age of 19 live here for more than 30 days in a year.

Homes are not difficult to sell here in TV if they are offered for a fair price. People can rent out their homes. People can move nearby and when circumstances change they can return if they want to. There is always a way to do what the rules say.

There have been past discussions of grandchildren of deployed service people and children of parents who have had them removed from their custody and of other terrible situations.

This is absolutely true that there is always a way to comply with the rules. All complaints to Deeds and Covenants are complaint driven, as we all know. I think it would be a lot tougher to "drop a dime" on grandparents who are doing a good thing than to make a call about pink plastic flamingos in the front yard. (Glad no one has called about my flamingos yet).

[Bizdoc]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

This is absolutely true that there is always a way to comply with the rules. All complaints to Deeds and Covenants are complaint driven, as we all know. I think it would be a lot tougher to "drop a dime" on grandparents who are doing a good thing than to make a call about pink plastic flamingos in the front yard. (Glad no one has called about my flamingos yet).

I would drop the dime in a heart beat. If the choice is to have the grandkid(s), move to a family neighborhood.

There are very good reasons for the restrictive covenants. If you decide to "let it slide" because, well, you want to, you will find out that once you stop enforcing them, you soon can't enforce any. Want to allow kids? How about home businesses, cars under repair in driveways, large families, etc. Take a good look at what happened to some of the early 55+ communities (especially in the southwest) which started to make all kinds of excepts.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Bizdoc

I would drop the dime in a heart beat. If the choice is to have the grandkid(s), move to a family neighborhood.

There are very good reasons for the restrictive covenants. If you decide to "let it slide" because, well, you want to, you will find out that once you stop enforcing them, you soon can't enforce any. Want to allow kids? How about home businesses, cars under repair in driveways, large families, etc. Take a good look at what happened to some of the early 55+ communities (especially in the southwest) which started to make all kinds of excepts.

I disagree with you. The theory that a rule will become non-enforceable unless strictly applied doesn't seem to be the case here in TV, because the only way the rule will be enforced is if a complaint is made. So every rule will be enforced if there is a complaint. And no rule will go away if there is no complaint.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I disagree with you. The theory that a rule will become non-enforceable unless strictly applied doesn't seem to be the case here in TV, because the only way the rule will be enforced is if a complaint is made. So every rule will be enforced if there is a complaint. And no rule will go away if there is no complaint.

I think that when a place is advertised as not having children living there that it is a realistic expectation to have just that; a community designed and geared for older people who have no children. When there is a rule, no matter what heart breaking conditions occur, everyone should be expected to follow the rule.

It is not impossible to do so, but may be difficult. I am discouraged when a few expect for the majority to bend to their need.

Don't any of you start with anything that remotely sounds like "old children haters" because I am very sure that isn't the case at all for most Villagers.

I think most of us love little ones, but no longer want to worry about them and their safety.

[TrudyM]

I seem to remember a couple of years ago on this forum a person posted that they got extended permission for their grandchild to stay for 90 days as their parent was serving in Iraq and that when that parent was killed they had to move to a family village. The discussion was how they could continue to attend the classes etc that they loved and they were advised by all you wise people to buy an inexpensive patio home or manufactured home and rent it out with guest passes only leaving the regular passes for themselves.

[Bizdoc]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think that when a place is advertised as not having children living there that it is a realistic expectation to have just that; a community designed and geared for older people who have no children. When there is a rule, no matter what heart breaking conditions occur, everyone should be expected to follow the rule.

It is not impossible to do so, but may be difficult. I am discouraged when a few expect for the majority to bend to their need.

Don't any of you start with anything that remotely sounds like "old children haters" because I am very sure that isn't the case at all for most Villagers.

I think most of us love little ones, but no longer want to worry about them and their safety.

Gracie:

As usual, you have found a way to say much more tactfully than I what needed to be said. Thank you.

[Bizdoc]

Originally Posted by TrudyM

I seem to remember a couple of years ago on this forum a person posted that they got extended permission for their grandchild to stay for 90 days as their parent was serving in Iraq and that when that parent was killed they had to move to a family village. The discussion was how they could continue to attend the classes etc that they loved and they were advised by all you wise people to buy an inexpensive patio home or manufactured home and rent it out with guest passes only leaving the regular passes for themselves.

Good suggestion.