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The Landlord doesn't "get a cut", he gets his RENT, which in the retail industry, is typically partly based on sales volume.
My understanding is the Developer gets a cut of the profits as well as rent.
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Honestly do you buy Everything at Aldi? Never enter a grocery because Aldi has all of your grocery needs?

The loss of a grocery for some isn’t an issue because they can drive elsewhere. However there are some TV residents, who are cart bond, easily get lost due to unfamiliar surroundings.
The loss of WD will be a very big deal to them.
Aldi is a grocery.

I don't buy everything at any one store. Each of the stores I go to have something unique that I like. I haven't paid enough attention to Aldi to know if I could live with that as my only store.

For some that are cart bound, having an Aldi that is golf cart accessible will be a very big deal to them.
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Aldi is a grocery.

I don't buy everything at any one store. Each of the stores I go to have something unique that I like. I haven't paid enough attention to Aldi to know if I could live with that as my only store.

For some that are cart bound, having an Aldi that is golf cart accessible will be a very big deal to them.
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My understanding is the Developer gets a cut of the profits as well as rent.
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I agree. There are about 10 Publix stores in The Villages area, and each one has gross sales of about $40 million per year. I would be very surprised if they are sharing any of this revenue with the landlord. It would make a lot more sense for them to buy land and build their own stores. In the north, Giant builds their own stores and even owns their own construction company. These large stores may have a landlord, but they certainly don't need one.
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I agree. There are about 10 Publix stores in The Villages area, and each one has gross sales of about $40 million per year. I would be very surprised if they are sharing any of this revenue with the landlord. It would make a lot more sense for them to buy land and build their own stores. In the north, Giant builds their own stores and even owns their own construction company. These large stores may have a landlord, but they certainly don't need one.
Of the five Publix closest to me, four are on land owned by companies with addresses in Sumter Landing or Brownwood. The fifth, Trailwinds, is on land owned by a company out of Tampa.

I am not about to look up every company that is golf-cart accessible, but it appears to be the rare case (CostCo might be one) where the Villages sells the land rather than leases it.

As far as sharing profits - percentage rent appears to be not uncommon for retail leasing. I would be surprised to learn it wasn't used by the Villages.
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As far as sharing profits - percentage rent appears to be not uncommon for retail leasing. I would be surprised to learn it wasn't used by the Villages.
If used, TV does a percent of revenues, not profits.
(as does most landlords)
Profits can be manipulated.
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My understanding is the Developer gets a cut of the profits as well as rent.
Retail Leasing "rent" typically includes 4 components, fixed rent, CAM, taxes and % of revenue above base.

Fixed Rent is usually a price per square foot.

CAM = Common Area Maintenance charges.

Taxes = proportionate share of property taxes.

% above base = The Lessor typically gets a small percentage of the gross revenue, after a "base" number (1% of revenue after $5M, or whatever it may be).
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Retail Leasing "rent" typically includes 4 components, fixed rent, CAM, taxes and % of revenue above base.

Fixed Rent is usually a price per square foot.

CAM = Common Area Maintenance charges.

Taxes = proportionate share of property taxes.

% above base = The Lessor typically gets a small percentage of the gross revenue, after a "base" number (1% of revenue after $5M, or whatever it may be).
I agree, but there is a huge difference between leasing to a small gift shop and to a large grocery store, like Publix. In The Villages, the developer needs Publix more than Publix needs the developer.
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Oh the horror of living in a third world community....having to go 4 miles further for more "upscale" grocery shopping. And my Publix was also out of 1% milk this week the one day I was there. I actually had to make a separate trip the following day to get milk. Such a tough life.
Aren’t we kinda in 3rd world county?
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My exact thoughts; such an unfair world for some here in TV.
Actually don’t even have to go, just have it delivered. I see Kroger’s truck all the time.
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I would be for an Albertsons instead of seeing more Publix stores.
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I would be for an Albertsons instead of seeing more Publix stores.
We went to Albertsons in Key West (now closed) a few years ago. It was absolutely the filthiest business of any kind I had ever been in. It was so bad in fact, we walked back out without shopping and I've not been in another one since. Apparently some are better than others
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We went to Albertsons in Key West (now closed) a few years ago. It was absolutely the filthiest business of any kind I had ever been in. It was so bad in fact, we walked back out without shopping and I've not been in another one since. Apparently some are better than others
That's interesting, because back when we were spending winters in Key West, the Publix was absolutely filthy, and Albertson's was very clean. It had the most amazing homemade rosemary olive bread, too.
But then it got sold, so I don't know what happened to it. We were there from 2004 to 2009.
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