[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Aces4

This feels very old fashioned and out of step with our current lives. Who sends letters every day and how many people would love to stop sending obligatory Christmas cards and send greetings by email, text or a phone call. Next argument to keep the obsolete...

Millions of people still use pens on paper to write things and send them through the mail. My mom died just over a year ago and she never used the internet, didn't have an e-mail account, and LOVED getting cards and letters from friends and family, and sent them as well.

Just because you don't like writing, doesn't mean writing is bad, or that no one likes it.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The USPS isn't "losing" money. It's SPENDING money. It is not a business, it isn't designed to turn a profit. It is an EXPENSE. Just like the military is an expense. Do you think we should see some profit from the CIA? The Army? How about the IRS? Would you be okay if the IRS charged a fee for the privilege of filing your taxes, so that it can be a profitable organization? How about the FTC, the FAA - maybe the FAA should tack on an extra $100 fee per use for people flying aircraft, so that it can turn a profit.

Do you see how insane and ridiculous that sounds? That's how the rhetoric and hyperbole and strawman arguments about the USPS "losing" money sounds to me.

What an argument... it is supposed to be a self-funded arm of government, THE WAY IT WAS AT ONE TIME until 2006. We all pay extra airline fees, fees for the privilege of driving a car, fees for fishing licenses, toll fees and so forth. If one doesn't want or need it, they can bow out and work through private services if the need rises. And yes, we do pay a fee for tax computation and not everyone needs to do that. So should we charge everyone for that service or just those who want to use it?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The USPS isn't "losing" money. It's SPENDING money. It is not a business, it isn't designed to turn a profit. It is an EXPENSE. Just like the military is an expense. Do you think we should see some profit from the CIA? The Army? How about the IRS? Would you be okay if the IRS charged a fee for the privilege of filing your taxes, so that it can be a profitable organization? How about the FTC, the FAA - maybe the FAA should tack on an extra $100 fee per use for people flying aircraft, so that it can turn a profit.

Do you see how insane and ridiculous that sounds? That's how the rhetoric and hyperbole and strawman arguments about the USPS "losing" money sounds to me.

Your forgetting that we pay to send mail so the usps has revenue. To me that makes it a business. Why should the post office not run efficiently.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Millions of people still use pens on paper to write things and send them through the mail. My mom died just over a year ago and she never used the internet, didn't have an e-mail account, and LOVED getting cards and letters from friends and family, and sent them as well.

Just because you don't like writing, doesn't mean writing is bad, or that no one likes it.

But that's the way it works here, right?. I have an opinion so everyone must share that opinion or else they are wrong and deserve to be criticized.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Millions of people still use pens on paper to write things and send them through the mail. My mom died just over a year ago and she never used the internet, didn't have an e-mail account, and LOVED getting cards and letters from friends and family, and sent them as well.

Just because you don't like writing, doesn't mean writing is bad, or that no one likes it.

First of all, I'm sorry for the loss of your mother.

My mother was in her 90's when she sent me her first message on a computer. I saved it to this day with a cellphone picture. No one is saying that anyone's mother still can't send a letter, just use a different technique. But we don't need a USPS for people to move their messages around any longer and even people at our ages are very adept using computers. It's like saying we still need dial up phones because that's what Mom and Dad enjoyed. The times they are a changin.. and our nation is broke.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

But that's the way it works here, right?. I feel an opinion so everyone must share that opinion or else they are wrong and deserve to be criticized.

It's difficult for many to grasp a new paradigm but it's necessary at this point. There is no Santa Claus.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Millions of people still use pens on paper to write things and send them through the mail. My mom died just over a year ago and she never used the internet, didn't have an e-mail account, and LOVED getting cards and letters from friends and family, and sent them as well.

Just because you don't like writing, doesn't mean writing is bad, or that no one likes it.

I never said I don't like writing (typing) and probably write (type) more than most people my age, large extended family and friends from over the years. I also love to read. But I believe it's time to move with the current generation and stop clinging to the extremely expensive, old ways.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

It's difficult for many to grasp a new paradigm but it's necessary at this point. There is no Santa Claus.

And what is that new paradigm, just do without? See post #118

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

And what is that new paradigm, just do without? See post #118

I would refer you to post #120.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

I would refer you to post #120.

Right back at ya with #124.

But this isn’t getting us anywhere. You don’t like the curremt system but offer no viable alternative, only an assertion that no one feels differently than you do. I don’t see a viable alternative to the current system but recognize that it provides some necessary services and that some see a value in it.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Right back at ya with #124.

But this isn’t getting us anywhere. You don’t like the curremt system but offer no viable alternative, only an assertion that no one feels differently than you do. I don’t see a viable alternative to the current system but recognize that it provides some necessary services and that some see a value in it.

I did offer viable alternatives. Providing reasonable discussion as to why one chooses other options is just that, a discussion. It doesn't require that I must accept your position as the final one or you must accept mine. I believe all necessary services you feel the USPS provides now can by replaced by more cost effective, modern methods. We can agree to disagree.

[thelegges]

Our Mail contractor seems to have more packages than bins of mail everyday

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by thelegges

Our Mail contractor seems to have more packages than bins of mail everyday

Do they have more packages than total bins or more packages than empty bins? Ours frequently requests that we come and empty the bins.