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Old 11-25-2015, 07:26 PM
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Default Major development proposed across from Pinellas Plaza where Villages once hoped to bu

As posted in the online paper!

"This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses, 174,240 square feet of institutional use and 544,500 square feet of retail space."

I do have to laugh, people opposed the villages going in here because we have enough, homes, traffic and people. According to the online paper, " Last spring, The Villages proposed building more than 700 homes and support facilities on the Trailwinds property." Now we are looking at " This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses" and " A revised plan for the separate Trailwinds development to the east on 131.5 acres calls for 296 homes". HMMMMMM, apartments and townhouses!!!!! Anyone want to guess what this will bring? At least with the villages, we knew we were getting 55 and over residents, but now?????
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As posted in the online paper!

"This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses, 174,240 square feet of institutional use and 544,500 square feet of retail space."

I do have to laugh, people opposed the villages going in here because we have enough, homes, traffic and people. According to the online paper, " Last spring, The Villages proposed building more than 700 homes and support facilities on the Trailwinds property." Now we are looking at " This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses" and " A revised plan for the separate Trailwinds development to the east on 131.5 acres calls for 296 homes". HMMMMMM, apartments and townhouses!!!!! Anyone want to guess what this will bring? At least with the villages, we knew we were getting 55 and over residents, but now?????
More people to Florida like the majority already here before TV and hundreds of thousands since TV?
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Old 11-25-2015, 07:34 PM
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While I sympathize people have to live somewhere and I hope when/if they do build it won't become an issue here. To many people seem to panic before something is even close to happening and even if it were you still won't be able to do anything about it.

If you won't seclusion then you should have bought 1000 acres of desert and built in the middle of it. Or a mtn. top. Or 500 acres of woods. Or your own island...etc.

What do you hope to gain reprinting this????
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While I sympathize people have to live somewhere and I hope when/if they do build it won't become an issue here. To many people seem to panic before something is even close to happening and even if it were you still won't be able to do anything about it.

If you won't seclusion then you should have bought 1000 acres of desert and built in the middle of it. Or a mtn. top. Or 500 acres of woods. Or your own island...etc.

What do you hope to gain reprinting this????
Gain, nothing! just opening up for discussion, same as you did, freedom of opinion and speech! Just posted the facts, as of today, it has changed many times. I just find it amazing, complain about the villages building but know we may have much more.
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With the Village Developer we know what we are getting. Do you know of a better developed 110,000 place in the United States? The proposed new development does seem a rather highly densely populated proposal when compared to most of The Villages.

Only time will tell how this will turn out. The city of Wildwood was determined to get a younger mix-development into this area that they controlled. Hopefully, Wildwood and Sumter County will be able to attract some industry so the young people will have jobs so they can support themselves and purchase homes in this new development.
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Geez how did you people make it this far in life worrying so much about TOMORROW.
Most all of us are going to be dead before this has any effect on us, that is if it ever effects us.
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As posted in the online paper!

"This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses, 174,240 square feet of institutional use and 544,500 square feet of retail space."

I do have to laugh, people opposed the villages going in here because we have enough, homes, traffic and people. According to the online paper, " Last spring, The Villages proposed building more than 700 homes and support facilities on the Trailwinds property." Now we are looking at " This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses" and " A revised plan for the separate Trailwinds development to the east on 131.5 acres calls for 296 homes". HMMMMMM, apartments and townhouses!!!!! Anyone want to guess what this will bring? At least with the villages, we knew we were getting 55 and over residents, but now?????
I read that article this morning, and was under the impression that the developer of that property was building rental properties for 55 and over age group. That's actually a good thing. Many 55+ folks do not want the headaches of home ownership any longer. What do YOU think it will bring? Actually, 20% of Village residents have to be under 55 for the developer to get certain breaks. You seem a little nervous about Trailwinds. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.
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While I sympathize people have to live somewhere and I hope when/if they do build it won't become an issue here. To many people seem to panic before something is even close to happening and even if it were you still won't be able to do anything about it.

If you won't seclusion then you should have bought 1000 acres of desert and built in the middle of it. Or a mtn. top. Or 500 acres of woods. Or your own island...etc.

What do you hope to gain reprinting this????
Good point! The entire article in the on-line paper was not reprinted here. There was actually a great deal of info put forth.
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Actually, applesoffh, 20% of Villagers DO NOT have to be under 55. 100% can be over 55. The maximum that CAN be under 55 is 20%, to meet the guidelines of the Fair Housing Act.
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You do know that a person or persons do not have to be over 55 to buy a resale.....right!

Resales do not enter into the percentages of developer new sales.
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As posted in the online paper!

"This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses, 174,240 square feet of institutional use and 544,500 square feet of retail space."

I do have to laugh, people opposed the villages going in here because we have enough, homes, traffic and people. According to the online paper, " Last spring, The Villages proposed building more than 700 homes and support facilities on the Trailwinds property." Now we are looking at " This development on 153.6 acres by WholeLife Properties of Dallas would include 1,298 residential dwelling units, including apartments and townhouses" and " A revised plan for the separate Trailwinds development to the east on 131.5 acres calls for 296 homes". HMMMMMM, apartments and townhouses!!!!! Anyone want to guess what this will bring? At least with the villages, we knew we were getting 55 and over residents, but now?????
Every time an issue of the continuing build out of The villages is presented I remind folks that as The Villages grow so will the surrounding communities.

What all this means is more crowding and despite what some folks believe I am doubtful that most folks welcome the crowding nor did they consider it would get this crowded when they purchased their property? Not in my back yard is a legitimate gripe . So is complaining about a three tier water fee schedule to encourage conservation when all it does is allow developers o develop more. I cannot recall the actual title of the bill but a bill proposed in 2010 to allow homeowners say in managed/controlled development was defeated because developers and real estate people had the bigger stick and so now homeowners are stuck.

So now we will rightly have more people from the surrounding communities streaming onto road restaurants town squares, more congestion , ore lines and wait time, more crime. This is not a complaint but an observation and a fact of life and yes I know it is all not bad news but then that depends on whose ox is being gored

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(i) at least 80 percent of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person who is 55 years of age or older

Nothing about the number of Villagers, nothing about deeds or ownership, nothing about new or resale, nothing about 20% MUST be...
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With the Village Developer we know what we are getting. Do you know of a better developed 110,000 place in the United States? The proposed new development does seem a rather highly densely populated proposal when compared to most of The Villages.

Only time will tell how this will turn out. The city of Wildwood was determined to get a younger mix-development into this area that they controlled. Hopefully, Wildwood and Sumter County will be able to attract some industry so the young people will have jobs so they can support themselves and purchase homes in this new development.
I agree that with the villages development we know what we are getting and that is why we bought into it. With this in mind, and we living very close to this, we have decided to keep our home in Ohio a little bit longer just in case the bubble bursts in this beautiful place we call THE VILLAGES!
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I like the wait-and-see. Speculation just takes too much time out of my life. When they build it i will know what it is.
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I agree that with the villages development we know what we are getting and that is why we bought into it. With this in mind, and we living very close to this, we have decided to keep our home in Ohio a little bit longer just in case the bubble bursts in this beautiful place we call THE VILLAGES!
I'm not buying in The Villages to make money. If I do then that's fine. We are coming there to live our life. If this new development was a prison or something similarly bad to live near then I would change up the plan. Life is for living. Were coming anyway and to hell with whatever they build. Just doesn't sound that bad to me. I'm thinking it's possible you never have been to the bubble. If it burst's and I go down...which I doubt greatly at least I'll go down in the lap of luxury. It's The Villages...It's All Good.
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