[crummybuttons]

Warren, our situation is a lil different. We were golfing on the historic side when it was my turn to tee off. I approached the ball and looked at the green. No one was anywhere in the fareway. I hit the ball and BOOM right there in front of me was an elderly man with his cart just standing there oblivious to us yelling FORE. When we approached my ball he still didn't know what was going on. I said didn't you see me teeing off? All of a suddun his son (named Bill) came running over to us screaming at me with a club in his hand. I was scared. He was swearing at us and saying his father was 97 yrs old and deaf and couldn't possibly have heard us. I said to him I guess his eye sight isn't up to par either. Holy cow this man wanted to take a swing at me and my husband and dared us to. We were pretty upset and never have encounterd anything like tis in the villages. What's wrong with people? By the way I stopped the ambassador and told him how frightend I was. He did nothing. It's getting that you don't even want to leave the house anymore.

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

Less than two hours ago I was riding my bike on the very nice cart path along El Camino Real. I always ride on the right side and very close to the edge of the path. As I approached an oncoming golf cart, I could see a another golf cart approaching from the rear. This cart coming from the rear did not slow a bit as the three of us passed side by side. I would call what he did "threading the needle".. Anyway this jerk coming from the rear passed me with less than two feet to spare, I yelled MOVE OVER to which he slammed his brakes on immediately in front of me and asked what was my problem. I told him that he nearly hit me, to which he replied, "well I didn't did I "? I said to him that he should have given me more room, to which he replied, "GO F**K YOURSELF, WHY DON'T YOU F**KIN GROW UP". He drove away. Now, I have lived in the Villages for more than 15 years, and those first ten years something like this happening was unheard of. I hear more and more of instances lkie I decribed and It make me so sad to see this change when one resident would verbally assault another resident in such a vulgar way. What was such a wonderful place to live is no more.. My wish is that that moron who nearly hit me, reads this post.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by crummybuttons

Warren, our situation is a lil different. We were golfing on the historic side when it was my turn to tee off. I approached the ball and looked at the green. No one was anywhere in the fareway. I hit the ball and BOOM right there in front of me was an elderly man with his cart just standing there oblivious to us yelling FORE. When we approached my ball he still didn't know what was going on. I said didn't you see me teeing off? All of a suddun his son (named Bill) came running over to us screaming at me with a club in his hand. I was scared. He was swearing at us and saying his father was 97 yrs old and deaf and couldn't possibly have heard us. I said to him I guess his eye sight isn't up to par either. Holy cow this man wanted to take a swing at me and my husband and dared us to. We were pretty upset and never have encounterd anything like tis in the villages. What's wrong with people? By the way I stopped the ambassador and told him how frightend I was. He did nothing. It's getting that you don't even want to leave the house anymore.

Could you clarify? Why was this man in front of you? Was he playing the same hole and you didn't see him?

I read your post to Sweetie and he said it sounded like you hit into these people.

[beachx4me]

One of the reasons I am looking forward to being retired from working, etc. and being able to live in such a beautiful place is that I don't want to have to be in a hurry to be anywhere anymore. No rushing, etc. If that man was in such a hurry to get where he was going he should have taken his car rather than passing folks and creating dangerous situations. Plus yelling out such language and showing himself like that - well maybe that just shows us he is from the low end of the gene pool. And as another poster said, some people never change no matter how they were before they got to TV. Just my two cents worth.

[Here2Stay]

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

Less than two hours ago I was riding my bike on the very nice cart path along El Camino Real. I always ride on the right side and very close to the edge of the path. As I approached an oncoming golf cart, I could see a another golf cart approaching from the rear. This cart coming from the rear did not slow a bit as the three of us passed side by side. I would call what he did "threading the needle".. Anyway this jerk coming from the rear passed me with less than two feet to spare, I yelled MOVE OVER to which he slammed his brakes on immediately in front of me and asked what was my problem. I told him that he nearly hit me, to which he replied, "well I didn't did I "? I said to him that he should have given me more room, to which he replied, "GO F**K YOURSELF, WHY DON'T YOU F**KIN GROW UP". He drove away. Now, I have lived in the Villages for more than 15 years, and those first ten years something like this happening was unheard of. I hear more and more of instances lkie I decribed and It make me so sad to see this change when one resident would verbally assault another resident in such a vulgar way. What was such a wonderful place to live is no more.. My wish is that that moron who nearly hit me, reads this post.

I would HATE to be married to that guy! So sad that people are so hateful...and that they feel moving over a few feet is going to kill them. I see this often and for the life of me can't understand what is wrong with so many people. Shame on the person who was riding with him.....does not say much about you either! Sorry you had to experience this! She is a lucky woman to be married to such a man!

[Villages PL]

Warren, I'm sorry you had that experience. I've had that happen while walking. But when I'm walking, I walk on the left side. So I'm facing on-coming carts. On a busy day, there are lots of times when two carts pass each other (going in oposite directions) and if I happen to be there at the same time it can be a close call. The difference is: I'm ready to step off into the grass if it gets too close and it has happened from time to time. Usually, they don't slow down either. I've experienced drivers going full speed while only intending to leave about 1 foot between us. That's when, for sure, I step off into the grass.

Being on a bicycle seems more dangerous because you have your back to carts coming up behind you. Have you ever thought of riding your bike in the center of your lane at certain times when you see this situation developing? The cart in back of you would have to slow down and wait for traffic to clear. Just a thought.

[Chazz]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

...Being on a bicycle seems more dangerous because you have your back to carts coming up behind you. Have you ever thought of riding your bike in the center of your lane at certain times when you see this situation developing? The cart in back of you would have to slow down and wait for traffic to clear. Just a thought.

That principle is derived from Florida traffic law which requires a motor vehicle to give cyclists a minimum of 3 feet clearance when passing. On substandard sized lanes (i.e. those under 14 feet wide, per the Florida DOT Manual of Uniform Minimum Standards), it is not possible to share the lane and remain in compliance. Therefore, cyclists can take the lane, as any other vehicle. Unfortunately, this does not apply to the multimodal paths, as they are not considered part of the Florida road system. Notwithstanding, what you said makes good sense. Although it is the safe thing to do, you can expect a hostile reaction from some cart drivers.

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by crummybuttons

Warren, our situation is a lil different. We were golfing on the historic side when it was my turn to tee off. I approached the ball and looked at the green. No one was anywhere in the fareway. I hit the ball and BOOM right there in front of me was an elderly man with his cart just standing there oblivious to us yelling FORE. When we approached my ball he still didn't know what was going on. I said didn't you see me teeing off? All of a suddun his son (named Bill) came running over to us screaming at me with a club in his hand. I was scared. He was swearing at us and saying his father was 97 yrs old and deaf and couldn't possibly have heard us. I said to him I guess his eye sight isn't up to par either. Holy cow this man wanted to take a swing at me and my husband and dared us to. We were pretty upset and never have encounterd anything like tis in the villages. What's wrong with people? By the way I stopped the ambassador and told him how frightend I was. He did nothing. It's getting that you don't even want to leave the house anymore.

I had forgotten about an incidence that happened to me years ago and convinces me that same elderly man was part of a strange experience I also had Also while golfing in a foursome at Orange Blossom Golf Course. We were standing on the tee waiting for the hole to clear so we could hit our balls. A very elderly man walked in front of, using a pull cart, and proceeded to the forward tees and hit his ball. Of course we were yelling like crazy at the old mans rudeness. He totally ignored us !!!! It didn't matter to this fool that he was hitting his ball into the foursome in front of us. Lo and Behold he simply continued to hit has ball thru that forward foursome. Soon he was out of our sight and we continued our play. I made it a point to go into the Pro Shop following our round and express my concern about this guy. You know what they said ?????? They said, He is OK, that he is just old "name", he does that nearly every day.
To me this was a crock, Old Charlie so and so being allowed to disrupt anothers golf game, placing himself in danger and of putting we golfers is a very bad position lest we hit and injure Old Charlie. I cannot believe this has not been stopped.

[robertj1954]

There is no excusing bad behavior. I live by the old adage. When facing rude behavior. Don't let them win by stooping down to their level. I just shake my head in disbelief of the rudeness and go on my way.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by robertj1954

There is no excusing bad behavior. I live by the old adage. When facing rude behavior. Don't let them win by stooping down to their level. I just shake my head in disbelief of the rudeness and go on my way.

AND that is about all you can do.

If not you add to it.

Their mama's didn't teach them right and sadly their example has taught their kids the same way. We pre baby boomers were taught all the good stuff, including not to call attention to when people became "old" and look down on them for it.

[Suzi]

This reminds me of a famous "story" where the poor old man was taken in on Christmas Eve. And the Lord said to the man......I met you 3 times and you took good care of me.

Maybe this is a "test" for each who sees this old man on the golf course............
How do you treat him? The lesson here?