[jrref]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Just called them and was quoted $550.

You need to tell them your were referred by John from Talk of the Villages to get the special discount.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by sounding

The black flexible piping is better than the yellow, but it is not lightning proof -- only black iron pipe is (like I have). Either way, if you have gas service in your attic you should have lightning rods - unless you eventually want to see a story about your house in the newspaper.

You have to wonder how long that "Flash Shield" self sealing black coating will hold up in Florida attics.

I'd hate to be the Chief Engineer for the Developers construction business and be called into a deposition after people perish in a fire resulting from this material and be ask why after all the documented issues and recalls they continued to use attic routed CSST gas lines in the lightening capital of the US.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by LuckyS

Anybody have any experience with Lightning Defense out of Zephyrhills?

Yes, very professional and clean install (+5 yrs ago).

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy

Why do firefighters not recommend a LPS? Job security?

They install LPS on firehouses here (that don't have metal roofs).

I have three retired fire fighter friends, one a former NYC Captain, who had LPS installed on their homes.

[pikeselectric]

Hi all! Casandra with Pike's Electric here. I highly encourage you to check out this video we have about the Eaton Ultra device:
https://fb.watch/tyotRhmSAB/
Also, you can email me with any further questions you may have. We would love to help you with this installation and offer you a Talk of The Villages discount on our services.
You can reach me via email at cnelson@pikeselectric.com
Thank you to all have reached out!

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by thelegges

Have to admit I don’t worry about something that may or may not happen. While in Michigan we had tornados we could watch from the basement behind our home for more times than I can count. Our daughter’s neighborhood was hit with Twin tornadoes, that leveled 200 trees, houses, taking rescues 6 hours to gain entrance because of road being blocked by 100 year old Oaks.
After she said “ well I didn’t like the color of siding or roof, or those 6 giant oaks in the back yard.” Time to pick new colors and Mom can you put sheets in 4 bedrooms, we coming for a visit.

Weather just has to be taken in stride, worry shouldn’t consume your mind, that may never happen.

Lol, kind of feel the same way. Maybe it's "age" ? Or better said experience (as you pointed out). Not trying to be flippant, but one person active on this site quotes Tom Petty on most things worried about never happen anyway. Not being flippant, but I think if you tend to worry a great deal, why not invest in something to allay that worry ! We had many years of "luck", then about 8 years ago, big strike in backyard. Lost overhead garage door opener and one TV. Probably foolish to some, but didn't move us to install any kind of major system. Just researched the effectiveness of a few different surge "protectors" and installed several between TV, freezer, overhead outlet for garage opener, etc. Can't say they are fool proof, but we have since had a number of close strikes...including one in the street in front of the house ! So far, we've had no damage. But I'm sure others would not feel any sense of relief from just these simple "protectors" between expensive appliances and wall outlets. My view is do what relieves YOUR stress, not what others tell you to do.

[Nana2Teddy]

Originally Posted by Altavia

Yes. But the manufacturer of that tubing recommends the following:

https://www.gastite.com/downloads/pd...e_di_guide.pdf


IMPORTANT LIGHTENING SAFETY WARNING

ALL OWNERS should consult a lightning safety consultant to determine whether installation of a lightning protection system would be required to achieve sufficient protection for all building components from lightning.

Factors to consider include whether the area is prone to lightning. Areas with high lightning risk include but are not limited to: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, ...

Thank you! I’ll pass on to hubby. 👍🏻

[Nana2Teddy]

Originally Posted by jrref

The reason is they are not trained and should not be commenting but referring you to a knowledgable source. If you speak to any of the captains, most have been trained or seen the presentations to give you a reliable answer.

Okay, thx!

[Nana2Teddy]

Originally Posted by sounding

After installing Lightning Rods, I replaced the yellow gas lines in the attic with black iron pipe - which is lightning proof.

Who did you use to replace the gas lines with the black iron pipe please?

[sounding]

Mentioned in post #44.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Lol, kind of feel the same way. Maybe it's "age" ? Or better said experience (as you pointed out). Not trying to be flippant, but one person active on this site quotes Tom Petty on most things worried about never happen anyway. Not being flippant, but I think if you tend to worry a great deal, why not invest in something to allay that worry ! We had many years of "luck", then about 8 years ago, big strike in backyard. Lost overhead garage door opener and one TV. Probably foolish to some, but didn't move us to install any kind of major system. Just researched the effectiveness of a few different surge "protectors" and installed several between TV, freezer, overhead outlet for garage opener, etc. Can't say they are fool proof, but we have since had a number of close strikes...including one in the street in front of the house ! So far, we've had no damage. But I'm sure others would not feel any sense of relief from just these simple "protectors" between expensive appliances and wall outlets. My view is do what relieves YOUR stress, not what others tell you to do.

I'm glad you did the "right thing" but this is a great example of many who may know about surge protection but never do anything until they have an event. I can't tell you how many times I see Villagers saying they don't need a lightning protection system, or that they don't work or some other reason why they don't need it but when a neighbor gets hit most run out and get a system. Same applies to surge protection.

Due to the larger than "normal" number of homes hit and destroyed by lightning in the past couple of months, the few Lightning Protection companies such as A1 and Triangle and Lenhart Electric installing whole house surge protection are booked up for months. My neighbor was telling me he has to wait for A1 till the end of November and that was as of last week.

I guess it's human nature.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by jrref

Due to the larger than "normal" number of homes hit and destroyed by lightning in the past couple of months, the few Lightning Protection companies such as A1 and Triangle and Lenhart Electric installing whole house surge protection are booked up for months. My neighbor was telling me he has to wait for A1 till the end of November and that was as of last week.

I guess it's human nature.

I have to ask what is exact number of “larger than normal homes hit? Would peak interest if number per year, then one can actually see increase say for the past 10 years.
However how many new homes have been added to the mix per year in the last 10 years.
A comparison of roof tops per strike for each year, may be a conversation worth having.
Then since info would be beneficial break down south of 44 which has less giant trees, then say between the 6’s where trees are fewer, and in northern area where giant trees are everywhere.

For many money isn’t the object, but sound numbers of document strikes is definitely worth looking at.but more than normal doesn’t really make an interesting topic for those who look at statistics

That would be a great informational meeting.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I have to ask what is exact number of “larger than normal homes hit? Would peak interest if number per year, then one can actually see increase say for the past 10 years.
However how many new homes have been added to the mix per year in the last 10 years.
A comparison of roof tops per strike for each year, may be a conversation worth having.
Then since info would be beneficial break down south of 44 which has less giant trees, then say between the 6’s where trees are fewer, and in northern area where giant trees are everywhere.

For many money isn’t the object, but sound numbers of document strikes is definitely worth looking at.but more than normal doesn’t really make an interesting topic for those who look at statistics

That would be a great informational meeting.

Since 2004 to present there have been 27 homes destroyed or significantly damaged by lightning according to the Villages Lightning Study Group. We know there are more that have been damaged without fire that were not reported. Zero had a lightning protection system (LPS). There are 16 homes documented with a LPS that believe they were hit but had no fire or significant damage. One homeowner witnessed the strike. Large trees around the home, tall homes, short homes, homes with an LPS around the struck home have no effect on where the strike occurred. The home destroyed recently in Sunset Pointe had towering Queen palms in its front yard but the lightning hit the house. Lightning is totally unpredictable.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I have to ask what is exact number of “larger than normal homes hit? Would peak interest if number per year, then one can actually see increase say for the past 10 years.
However how many new homes have been added to the mix per year in the last 10 years.
A comparison of roof tops per strike for each year, may be a conversation worth having.
Then since info would be beneficial break down south of 44 which has less giant trees, then say between the 6’s where trees are fewer, and in northern area where giant trees are everywhere.

For many money isn’t the object, but sound numbers of document strikes is definitely worth looking at.but more than normal doesn’t really make an interesting topic for those who look at statistics

That would be a great informational meeting.

Thinking that trees help protect you from lighting is bad thinking - and dangerous thinking. There are numerous cases of homes being hit by lighting even though large tress were next to the home. People forget - homes are better pathways into the ground than trees, because homes have pipes, conduits, and wires which can travel deep into the ground via utilities connections. In other words ... lightning bolts often see homes as better targets than trees -- without or without lighting rods. Don't become a statistic.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by sounding

Thinking that trees help protect you from lighting is bad thinking - and dangerous thinking. There are numerous cases of homes being hit by lighting even though large tress were next to the home. People forget - homes are better pathways into the ground than trees, because homes have pipes, conduits, and wires which can travel deep into the ground via utilities connections. In other words ... lightning bolts often see homes as better targets than trees -- without or without lighting rods. Don't become a statistic.

Exactly. Side flashes from the tree into the home have also been reported.