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-   -   Margaret "Peggy" Klemm gets 180 days. (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/margaret-peggy-klemm-gets-180-days-122501/)

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-31-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MicheleE (Post 916350)
Alcoholism is not a choice. This women clearly needs rehab rather than jail. Hope she gets the help she needs and stops living on that merry-go-round.

A person who is an alcoholic needs to go to a detox and then a rehab and then into a lifetime of a recovery program.

A person that commits a crime should go to jail whether they are an alcoholic or not.

You are correct in that alcoholism is not a choice. But committing a crime is. You should not be able to use being drunk as an excuse for committing a crime.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-31-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 916390)
Peggy did indeed damage the reputation of a wonderful community. If she gets into AA, gets herself a sponsor and works the program she will make amends in accordance with one of AA's 12 steps. I will not hold my breath but anything is possible.

If her family members got into Al-Anon they could learn about enablement and other behavioral issues as well as learn to cope with her substance abuse.

Let us hope there is no encore of the sex on the square event.

I agree 1,000,000 %. May she find the grace of God to help her long her path.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-31-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 916282)
"there was a good chance some family coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse could have been emotionally scarred."

any kids old enough to be out that late have probably already accessed plenty of stuff on the internet that would turn our hair gray. I shouldn't be too worried about mental stress caused by seeing an old couple at it in public.



" I do feel that a lot of damage was done to the reputation of our wonderful community."

since TV already has the reputation of being the community with the highest rate of sexually transmitted diseases, I'm sure a bit of free love isn't going to move us up or down any ranking of morality

The reputation of The Villages was beginning to come back as more and more people were shown that that statistic was false. A lot of people worked hard to spread the word. This is a major setback for this community. Especially after the newspaper hack job.

graciegirl 07-31-2014 11:24 AM

Woman sentenced for having sex in Sumter County pavilion | News - Home

coolkayaker1 07-31-2014 11:53 AM

Perhaps she needs some sex and relationship counseling, to boot.

That is so ironic when this mother of four, 14 grandchildren, looks at the camera and mouths, "I love you." Her one-legged husband is a saint, and how embarrassing for her family.

NottaVillager 07-31-2014 12:17 PM

An utterly ridiculous sentence. There are drug dealers & thugs who get less time.

RedChariot 07-31-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 916398)
The reputation of The Villages was beginning to come back as more and more people were shown that that statistic was false. A lot of people worked hard to spread the word. This is a major setback for this community. Especially after the newspaper hack job.

Thank You. Margaret Klemm has done a disservice to us all. Especially her husband and family. Do any of you think The Villages will live this down? The laughter has been heard around the world. She deserves to pay for the crime.

StarbuckSammy 07-31-2014 01:06 PM

According to her son "Steve Klemm wouldn’t say what he thought happened that night, but added his mother hasn’t consumed alcohol since the DUI charge", Does that mean she was sober when ,according to the conviction, she was exposing her organs?

Abster 07-31-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by StarbuckSammy (Post 916457)
According to her son "Steve Klemm wouldn’t say what he thought happened that night, but added his mother hasn’t consumed alcohol since the DUI charge", Does that mean she was sober when ,according to the conviction, she was exposing her organs?

Maybe someone slipped her a pill or she'd had a reaction to a medication. Everyone is so quick to judge, you still have no idea what went on. It's between this lady and her husband/family. She didn't shame this community. This community has had its share of problems for quite some time. STDs, drunks, domestic violence, peds... The media just latched on and wouldn't/won't let go. It seems many have lived a VERY sheltered life or choose to not believe this happens EVERYWHERE. Mr. Usedtobe is long gone.

manaboutown 07-31-2014 01:55 PM

Ever hear of a "dry drunk"? -assuming she truly had not been drinking for a substantial period of time -

Urban Dictionary: Dry Drunk

ukgolfer 07-31-2014 02:27 PM

The good news, she's out for December, perhaps she could turn on the Christmas tree lights in the square, I always felt the event would benefit from the inclusion of an organ.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-31-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Abster (Post 916473)
Maybe someone slipped her a pill or she'd had a reaction to a medication. Everyone is so quick to judge, you still have no idea what went on. It's between this lady and her husband/family. She didn't shame this community. This community has had its share of problems for quite some time. STDs, drunks, domestic violence, peds... The media just latched on and wouldn't/won't let go. It seems many have lived a VERY sheltered life or choose to not believe this happens EVERYWHERE. Mr. Usedtobe is long gone.

I think that if she were drugged, it certainly would have come up in court. Mr Bobilya would have been charged with drugging her.

As far as her loving her husband and all that, I don't see where there is a conflict. This poor woman has gotten a terrible deal in life. Her husband is wheelchair bound and she was spending all of her timing taking care of him. She started to drink and it caught up with her. That's not to excuse the drunk driving or the sex act.

I have a friend who knows this woman. My friend's wife called her the day after the square incident. She said she really didn't want to talk, but did say, "I allowed my loneliness to get the better of me and I did a very foolish thing".

I can see how she still loves her family but was succumbed to the temptation to numb her pain with alcohol and seek relief in unhealthy ways. Again, this does not excuse her, but it also doesn't mean that she doesn't love her husband or her family. It just means that when the emotional pain got too great she chose the wrong path.

Having said that, she did make the choice and because of that, she will still pay
the price.

I feel very bad for her, her family and her husband. I also feel bad for our community which has ben damaged. But I also think that she is getting what she deserved and I believe that she does as well.

I hope that she can take this in turn it into a positive life experience.

DougB 07-31-2014 03:40 PM

Nice weather today, doncha think?

Villageshooter 07-31-2014 04:14 PM

with the attitude she brought shame to all of us! which i dont believe, just because i lived in dallas i didnt shoot jfk!
yes this is the Bible Belt of justice! just look at the doctor that had his hands all over a woman , and he still practicing with zero involvent of law enforcement,, to me is more unsafe to go to the doctor than go to the square! thank you so much Bible thumpers!

this poor woman is a victim of the system! get some help and enjoy life here in " Gods waiting room"
the bait shack will always be here for you dishing out the juice of the devil!

rp001 08-01-2014 07:34 AM

Again with the studs?
 
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Originally Posted by Abster (Post 916473)
Maybe someone slipped her a pill or she'd had a reaction to a medication. Everyone is so quick to judge, you still have no idea what went on. It's between this lady and her husband/family. She didn't shame this community. This community has had its share of problems for quite some time. STDs, drunks, domestic violence, peds... The media just latched on and wouldn't/won't let go. It seems many have lived a VERY sheltered life or choose to not believe this happens EVERYWHERE. Mr. Usedtobe is long gone.

I wish people would get their facts straight about this. Garbage rumor based on misinformation taken out of context from a book trying to enrich the writer. I'm so tired of answering this point and it's promulgated for sensationalism only.

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