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Old 10-20-2010, 09:24 PM
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Back to the question of some posters not taking other posters seriously and respecting and believing what they post.

Some posters are very clear in their presentations of ideas, some posters are professional journalists. Most of us do not present our ideas with that much skill and of course the written word lacks the emphasis and clues that a speaker in person is able to convey.

We are all feeling our way around this place. Many are brand new and a considerable number are fairly new so when something comes up and is posted here that we have not experienced we try to understand and grasp it.

When I first began to post and before we had made a lifestyle visit there was a poster on this forum who told about rats being a nuisance at a neighborhood pool and if I remember correctly she also said that this pool had faded canvas on the chairs. I think she said that the owners didn't care about the upkeep of the pools north of 466. I can't say for sure, because I didn't know at that time where things were and which was 466 and which was 466A and which was the original section and which was newer, etc. etc.

I certainly had no idea about this, but I read what others said and tried to form an idea. I had no choice but to believe this poster and was fast changing my mind about being interested in coming down to see if we would want to live here.

I don't know even now if it was true or not, but I personally haven't experienced any rats at the pool or any faded pool chair covers.

We all try to figure out what a poster is meaning to say, and it isn't easy some times. We use the means at hand to try to understand and if we have read many posts from someone we kind of know where he/she is coming from.

I really think that most of us on here do our best.



And I am reposting what I thought then and what I still think now.

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Old 10-21-2010, 07:32 AM
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"...I don't know even now if it was true or not, but..."

Gracie, there you go marginalizing again. I remember that post, several years ago, because I used to live in Ashland, and yes there were rats at the pool, and they had to send in an exterminator to get rid of them! It was the talk of our neighborhood. Just because you have not experienced them anywhere else does not mean it hasn't happened - it certainly isn't something The Villages is going to broadcast. And if I recall, it took a $40 million lawsuit to get the Developer to care about maintenance of recreational facilities north of 466.

The person who posted that was one of my neighbors, and she really took a beating from TOTV'ers for just telling the truth. She no longer participates on TOTV.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:52 AM
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There seemed to be rats around Lynnhaven/Ashland when they were grading the ground and putting in new homes just to the South of the Villages of Ashland and Lynnhaven. Quite a bit of dust too.

Critters have to go somewhere when their habitat gets ripped up.

Ashland and Lynnhaven are just south of the Southern Trace Shopping Center though. South of CR466.
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There seemed to be rats around Lynnhaven/Ashland when they were grading the ground and putting in new homes just to the South of the Villages of Ashland and Lynnhaven. Quite a bit of dust too.

Critters have to go somewhere when their habitat gets ripped up.

Ashland and Lynnhaven are just south of the Southern Trace Shopping Center though. South of CR466.
This isn't about the rats. Its about ToTV'er's at the time practically accusing my neighbor of lying about them being at the pool, when we, the neighbors, knew she was telling the truth. That is what is meant by marginalizing someone's views/posts. In her case, it got pretty extreme, what I'd call cyber-bullying. I don't blame her for not participating in this forum anymore.
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this isn't about the rats. Its about totv'er's at the time practically accusing my neighbor of lying about them being at the pool, when we, the neighbors, knew she was telling the truth. That is what is meant by marginalizing someone's views/posts. In her case, it got pretty extreme, what i'd call cyber-bullying. I don't blame her for not participating in this forum anymore.
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This isn't about the rats. Its about ToTV'er's at the time practically accusing my neighbor of lying about them being at the pool, when we, the neighbors, knew she was telling the truth. That is what is meant by marginalizing someone's views/posts. In her case, it got pretty extreme, what I'd call cyber-bullying. I don't blame her for not participating in this forum anymore.
Two wrongs do not make it right.

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This isn't about the rats. Its about ToTV'er's at the time practically accusing my neighbor of lying about them being at the pool, when we, the neighbors, knew she was telling the truth. That is what is meant by marginalizing someone's views/posts. In her case, it got pretty extreme, what I'd call cyber-bullying. I don't blame her for not participating in this forum anymore.
Wow!
But you sure were quick to attack (marginalize) Gracie for saying she didn't know the truth in that situation.
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Wow!
But you sure were quick to attack (marginalize) Gracie for saying she didn't know the truth in that situation.
First of all, marginalize is not synonomous with "attack". Marginalize means to relegate (something, especially a topic or a group of people,) to the margins or to a lower limit i.e. render someone's comments or posts unimportant. I did not attack Gracie. I merely pointed out that her post regarding the rats, where she said "she had never seen any" implied that just because she hadn't seen any rats there weren't any, which marginalized (lowered in importance or value) my neighbor's original comment about rats, which all of us in the neighborhood knew was true. I expect Gracie did not do this on purpose - it was just one of those things, and I merely pointed it out.


Its very laudable of you to stand up for your friend. And I am standing up for my neighbor how was treated very poorly by people on TOTV when all she did was state the truth about rats at a pool. Let's move on. I am.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:16 PM
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Good feedback everyone.

The one thing I like about these forums is that it makes it easy for a newcomer to TV to make new friends. I can easily pick out three or four just from this thread!
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