[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Sorry...I don't agree. To sit here a take anything all of you old naysayers are spewing vs Fauci's advice...you are all crazy.
Not saying we have to stay in our homes scared, but for crying out loud... how many people do you have to hear about that didn't get vaxed and are lying in the hospital begging for the Vax. OK, wearing, or not wearing a mask does not go hand and hand with if one believes that they should be vaxed, but if you are...why wouldn't you continue to help yourself stay even more safe and wear it???? Not unless I'm supposed to believe all you that you that have done nothing but cut this person apart in this post, are not vaxed.

Are you talking about St. Fauci, the guy who authorized funding of the likely development of Covid? The same St. Fauci who has backtracked, revised, and flip-flopped on nearly every single pronouncement he has made since the beginning of this "pandemic?" That Fauci's advice?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

90 % is a little high. Probably about 60%.

Anything to back up your claim?

It's over 78% FULLY vaccinated per this site (which doesn't include those who have antibodies due to previous infection)...

Covid Act Now

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by newgirl

Not true..if masks do nothing why didn't anyone get colds or flu while the mandate was in order? Masks do a lot of worn correctly.

Or, maybe because people finally started washing their hands more often, stopped touching their face, and most importantly, didn't go anywhere or do anything for almost 2 years!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I wasn't ridiculing, assuming, judging, nor discrediting you. You stated that you wear a mask for protection against "dust, pollens, and other germs". The logical conclusion is that you must have been wearing a mask for some time before COVID, since "pollen dust and other germs" have been around forever. I expressed doubt about that being the case, which you just confirmed. So now the question becomes, when did you start wearing a mask to protect from "dust, pollen, and other germs"???? Was it February 2020???
I don't "make fun" of anyone wearing a mask, but I do question their reasoning for doing so. If they think they are protecting themselves from COVID, then they are wasting their time. If they are incredibly altruistic and wear it to protect everyone else, fine and thank you. Surgeons do not wear masks to protect themselves, we wear them so as not to contaminate an open body cavity, so that analogy doesn't hold. And to my knowledge, I don't have any "followers". There are some people who appreciate a factual description of medical science as opposed to a regurgitation of garbage found on the internet, but that's all. And finally, this is not Asia, and I am hardly prone to "uninformed opinions"

First, let me assure you that there are many readers here, myself included, who appreciate what you bring to the various discussions on to tv. Followers, not in the cult way. But plenty who accept what you say as gospel.
As to the "uninformed" comment, I believe that the best informed can be mis informed based on the source of that information. Example: when I was told I had cancer I was scheduled with radiation and chemotherapy. The drug was "sysplatin" (not sure this is spelled correctly and spellchecker is no help). Dr. Handling my chemo told me next generation was 6 months away with 1/2 the side effects. 13 years later, was told that for my cancer the old drug is still being used due to the next-generation turned out less effective and similar side effects.
As to the ridicule, I did notice that on this thread, page 2(I believe) the term "covidiots" was used. Sorry, I thought you, of all, wouldn't sink to that level to denegrate those who are seriously concerned, whether you agree or not. Their physician may have recommended they wear a mask for reasons you don't know. By you saying masks are useless, they may not wear what their doctor wanted them to wear and you have undermined their confidence in their doctor.
Last, I have worn a mask occasionally since I served overseas 1967-1972. I continued to do so in civilian life. When covid hit I did jump on the mask and meds. I take any possible help recommended by my physician. Since the rules were lifted, I only wear mask if I think the possiblity of risk is above normal. A mask really doesn't negatively affect me, so I don't mind wearing it.
Keep up your good advice. I'll looking forward to your future posts.

[jarodrig]

Originally Posted by Wackowilley

So we are out to dine at Belle Glade and select indoor seating. Our group all have on masks. Our waiter arrives without a mask but is polite in introducing himself. One of our group asks him to put on a mask. He replied I don’t need to wear one, my management doesn’t require it. Further, He said he would not wear one and that no other wait staff would either. In view of the fact he moves around a closed environment, breathing the air of all his customers without being masked and then walks right up to our table unmasked is very threatening and extremely inconsiderate. I believe if a customer doesn’t want to be exposed to higher risks of COVID exposure they should be respected by staff who should make reasonable accommodations. This isn’t about trying to make others wear masks, it’s about requesting people who are working for you to comply with your reasonable requests.

I’m not going to read through 12 + pages of post so my response will probably be a duplicate or multiple duplicate of what others probably said ….

I hope you and your group all got up and left but I’m guessing that you probably did not ??

Stay at home and host a private dinner party of your own and require all of your guests to wear masks during the entire meal except when reloading their pie holes with food ….

Surely they can chew and swallow with their masks in place !

[B-flat]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Simple answer don’t go out in public if you don’t feel safe

That’s it Keep It Simple stay home. I like your tag line “living is easy with eyes closed.” Strawberry Fields Forever!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

"Let me 'splain it to you, Lucy".
First you asked about "stupid, selfish" and "ignorant". While that is also mean, it is used by both and does not imho, seem to carry with it the implied smug sneer of assumed superiority. To explain, imo using the expression "virtue signaling" is, in itself, virtue signaling. By the same token, imo, the use of "face diapers" or "covidiots" seems an attempt to show superiority by using supposedly clever or cute little quips. A "put down" rather than a rational statement.
To this point no one has changed their point of view, just become more imbedded in it.
Second, you are confused because I made a judgement. We all make judgements even while telling others and being told not to judge others. Our senses make it impossible not to judge everything around us. In my post I quoted the ancient phrase, "judge ye not lest ye yourself be judged". I never said I wouldn't judge for my self. We all judge and we are judged in return.
Ultimately, both sides of this issue are not going to change their minds and name calling makes both sides angry. A lose/lose situation. My suggestion is to ignore whether one wears a mark or not, like ignoring their socks, unless you are officially tasked with the job of making sure masks are or are not required.
How did I do?

Lousy...

YOU are the one who typed "Judge not, lest you be judged", while you were judging others...

Your saying "stupid, selfish and ignorant" is somehow "nicer" than "virtue signaling" is, while hysterical, a futile attempt at rationalization... As is your "whataboutism" regarding "face diapers" or "covidiots"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Reynoka

I miss eating at restaurants but grub hub delivers from most restaurants I like. I eat in my car, outside, or at home. I have food delivered to the house when we have family over.

Nothing wrong with that. If it works for you, great!

Others choose to do things differently...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

They found that the flu had decreased because of CV. Oh no! I forgot - that was in Australia and they determined that it was BECAUSE of mask-wearing. Sorry.

Link to back that up?

[Vermilion Villager]

Most of these posts, especially the jokes referencing A, B, C, D, E, F make a convincing argument you have not a clue how disease is transmitted. Do you think polio, typhoid, or smallpox started out as polio, typhoid, or smallpox? No...they evolved to the deadly level we know thru mutation.
17% of Florida is testing positive for a new highly contagious variant (mutation) called Omicron. Left unchecked in the human population someday the virus will mutate to a variant that our vaccines will not be protect us from. It always happens.
So you all keep making jokes using the alphabet or calling people snowbirds.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Sorry...I don't agree. To sit here a take anything all of you old naysayers are spewing vs Fauci's advice...you are all crazy.
Not saying we have to stay in our homes scared, but for crying out loud... how many people do you have to hear about that didn't get vaxed and are lying in the hospital begging for the Vax. OK, wearing, or not wearing a mask does not go hand and hand with if one believes that they should be vaxed, but if you are...why wouldn't you continue to help yourself stay even more safe and wear it???? Not unless I'm supposed to believe all you that you that have done nothing but cut this person apart in this post, are not vaxed.

Because it doesn't protect you. If you wear it as a community service, fine, but I doubt that is why people wear them. Most of them, like you, are under the mistaken impression that they protect the wearer.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Most of these posts, especially the jokes referencing A, B, C, D, E, F make a convincing argument you have not a clue how disease is transmitted. Do you think polio, typhoid, or smallpox started out as polio, typhoid, or smallpox? No...they evolved to the deadly level we know thru mutation.
17% of Florida is testing positive for a new highly contagious variant (mutation) called Omicron. Left unchecked in the human population someday the virus will mutate to a variant that our vaccines will not be protect us from. It always happens.
So you all keep making jokes using the alphabet or calling people snowbirds.

No, it "sometimes" happens. Most of the time, they mutate into "less deadly" strains...

If they kill their hosts, they cease to be, which is contrary to their goal...

[Aafa01]

Very simple. Stay home and eat!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Most of these posts, especially the jokes referencing A, B, C, D, E, F make a convincing argument you have not a clue how disease is transmitted. Do you think polio, typhoid, or smallpox started out as polio, typhoid, or smallpox? No...they evolved to the deadly level we know thru mutation.
17% of Florida is testing positive for a new highly contagious variant (mutation) called Omicron. Left unchecked in the human population someday the virus will mutate to a variant that our vaccines will not be protect us from. It always happens.
So you all keep making jokes using the alphabet or calling people snowbirds.

Really????? News to me, and every other medical professional, virologist and epidemiologist in the world.
Since those disease were around and killing people long before anyone had the slightest idea what a virus (or any microorganism for that matter) was, no one knows their origin or evolution. Love to know a source for that statement.

[jaj523]

And many "expert" epidemologists disagree. Death rates are going DOWN. New COVID cases are 95% Omicron. Looks like Delta is on the way out.