[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

Approximately 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,700 people lose their lives every day on the roads.
An additional 20-50 million suffer non-fatal injuries, often resulting in long-term disabilities.


So, if you are wearing a seat belt, which only protects you, you only care about yourself. What you actually should be doing is handing in your license and selling your car(s) so that there is no chance you could hurt/kill anyone. Just like you may not know you have the virus until too late, you may not know you will be the one to cause an accident until it occurs.

Where did you dig up those extremely inflated numbers? According to the CDC 32,000 highway fatalities and 2 million injuries of all severity

Motor Vehicle Crash Deaths | VitalSigns | CDC

[600th Photo Sq]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

Please enlighten me on which channel you watch that does not have an agenda. I can't wait to read it....

I watch just 3 Networks for total honest up to date reporting.

CNN, NBC, and CBS. the reporters are honest and true professionals. Nope no agenda just everyday honest reporting. How they do it only they know.

They have a very tough job especially at the Daily WH Press briefings, I have no idea how they get through their day.

Hey all down to dedication.

[Yucatan2]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Ahem! Nothing wrong with Fox News if you stay away from political opinion shows. When it comes to hard news they are quite good.

I am troubled by Florida's change in reporting of statistics about the Virus. (At least I am having difficulty finding how many are recently infected in Sumter County) Can anybody link me?

Gracie, I have looked at the Florida report for today 5/29/20. A LOT of scrolling is required to get the information. You must scroll down past the laboratory results to get to the line deaths in each county. For today the last death in Lake was 5/20, a 51 year old male. The last in Marion was 4/27, a 60 year old male. The last in Sumter was 4/30, an 87 year old male.
What astounds me is that while scrolling through the list of deaths, how many 80, 90, and even 100 year old people died and the deaths were attributed to COVID. Really? Perhaps these folks were ready to die anyway, nothing to do with a flu....
As for recent cases, that is harder. Currently 291 in Lake, 243 in Marion, and 253 in Sumter. I guess the only way to know what is new is to follow those statistics daily to see the change. I see these numbers on the dashboard map, by clicking on each county.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

Point 1: I said nothing about a mask, or politics. I responded to a post that implied FOX news was the only "news" channel with an agenda, and I was curious who they thought does not have an agenda.

Point 2: Why is COVID-19 the only time we "follow the science." Not being in an automobile reduces your chances of dying in a car accident or killing someone else with an automobile to much less than wearing a mask prevents the wearer and/or those around them from getting the virus. (and then less than 1% die if they get the virus.) Why are we not following that science and not driving automobiles to prevent the over 1.25 million deaths every year? Are the 80k deaths in the US from the flu every year not important? A mask reduces the spread of that too. Have you been wearing a mask every flu season? Why does that science not matter to you?

The following is your comment I was replying to. Sorry if I misinterpreted your sentiments......

Originally Posted by Cybersprings View Post
Please enlighten me on which channel you watch that does not have an agenda. I can't wait to read it....

Re: Point 2.........Nope, never thought of wearing a mask to mitigate seasonal flu. We have not been advised to wear masks, as far as I know, until Covid came on the scene. I have never had a flu nor have I ever had a flu shot. Come to think of it, I can count on one hand the amount of times I have had a common cold in my 70 years. This Covid-19 is a horse of a different color. I don't want to tussle with it.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq

I watch just 3 Networks for total honest up to date reporting.

CNN, NBC, and CBS. the reporters are honest and true professionals. Nope no agenda just everyday honest reporting. How they do it only they know.

They have a very tough job especially at the Daily WH Press briefings, I have no idea how they get through their day.

Hey all down to dedication.

This has gotta be bait!!

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

Masks are virtually useless. If you’ve been reading what many doctors and epidemiologist say, their value is mostly just psychological. Anyone that is still paranoid about Covid which now has a mortality rate no worse than the flu, should probably just stay home and quit expecting everyone else to share in their paranoia.I respect The Villages’s decision to not force those of us that do not believe in masks to have to wear them. I think this is still America!

Ahh, another knowledgeable person playing it's the "no worse than the flu" card!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Masks do NOT reduce the spread of the virus. Total myth.

WRONG....Here is an article from The Cleveland Clinic which explains how masks do help to mitigate the spread of the virus......
Here’s How Wearing a Cloth Mask Helps Fight the Spread of Coronavirus – Health Essentials from Cleveland Clinic

Let me follow up that article with a video which demonstrates how masks block droplets.....
How a mask blocks droplets - YouTube

[billethkid]

Slightly off topic but related.
I was at Lake Medical Imaging for a procedure today.

When someone comes in without a mask they are advised one is required to have medical service provided.

Handled very politely with professional authority.
Congratulations to Lake Medical Imaging for a very well run and disciplined procedure and handling of patients.....for all of our safety.

I continue to be impressed by those who stop and read the sign on the door advising a mask is required....then just march in with no mask as though the message was not for them!!!

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

Masks are virtually useless. If you’ve been reading what many doctors and epidemiologist say, their value is mostly just psychological. Anyone that is still paranoid about Covid which now has a mortality rate no worse than the flu, should probably just stay home and quit expecting everyone else to share in their paranoia.I respect The Villages’s decision to not force those of us that do not believe in masks to have to wear them. I think this is still America!

Thank you for being considerate of your neighbors here.....wait, that's wrong because you aren't.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by NJMike

The economic repercussions of a continued lock down will kill more people and destroy more lives than CV-19.

If you are truly concerned about economic impacts, then you should wear a mask when you are out and about. That way more people will feel safe enough to venture out themselves.

And, there has been no flip flop on masks. They asked us to not buy them all up at first so they would be available for those in the medical community and because they really don't protect you. Then they found out that aerosols from people's exhalations were a significant cause of spreading the disease. It then became logical that masks would slow the spread and they haven't changed their minds since.

But go ahead and believe the fake and/or old news. That will slow the economic recovery and cause MANY more deaths.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by valuemkt

Freedom to choose is a wonderful thing. You are free to stay home, and I am free to re-start the classes and activities that were an integral part of my life in The Villages. You are also free to tell me what a bad person I am, and I am free to ignore you. At some point you will need to establish a marker in which you will go outside your house, but of course you are free to spend the rest of your life within your four walls, free to think that you will never get sick and will lead a happy and fulfilled life.

Well, bless your heart.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by Holpat39

Common sense. If you are going to sneeze or cough do it into your sleeve. Distancing 6 ft. or more will eliminate the problem with speaking to someone. Newspaper today says the WHO and CDC says masks are only needed when treating people with Covid19. Who do we believe?

That simply is not true!

Use Cloth Face Coverings to Help Slow Spread | CDC

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by Tom M

Of course the dish on the right is responding to bacteria which are about 1,000 times larger than viruses. (According to the actual article itself which was on her Facebook post on May 6th).

It's compelling and speaks to the ability of masks (even home-made) to stop bacteria. But it isn't evidence of viral effectiveness. I'm NOT suggesting that they have no effectiveness against virus, simply that this picture/post doesn't prove it.

Uh, the viruses and bacteria are not individual entities when you sneeze or cough. There are zillions contained in the droplets that leave your mouth or nose, which are orders of magnitude bigger. It has NOTHING to do with the size of the individual germs.

[Windguy]

Folks, I think it's a complete waste of time dealing with these pigheaded people who refuse to follow the CURRENT advice of the medical community about the need to wear a mask. They have been completely brainwashed by ultra right-wing propaganda. No matter how many times they hear that the masks are to protect others, they keep quoting the old news about how they do little to protect the wearer (which is true!). They ignore the fact that only "protective" masks make it hard to breath and those designed to slow spread are much easier to wear and don't make it hard to breathe.

They act like they are concerned about the economy, but they just don't get it that the economy will recover faster if everyone wears a mask in public so that everyone can safely emerge from their homes. So, we who are concerned about being in the high risk group have no choice but to stay home. Sadly, that will slow the economic recovery and there will be many more deaths among the people who don't seem to care about others. I wonder if it will have an effect on the election in the fall. I guess it depends on just how bad it will get.

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bob

When a person dies from heart attack, cancer, etc., it is being counted as a Covid death because the hospital gets an extra $13,000 for each one.😡😡

Wrong. Totally fake news. Again...