[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Mail delivery slowdown: USPS to slow delivery starting October 1 - CBS News

So maybe its not your or our imagination, but maybe there is some truth behind the old USPS is gone, and the new USPS is not like we all remember.

Here is a solution. Stop Saturday delivery. Stop delivering junk mail of which 99% ends up in a trash can at the post boxes never having been read or even looked or double the price of delivering that junk. Like every other organization weed out the dead wood. Hire a professional CEO, to run the organization instead of appointing political friends. Build larger distribution centers and close large post offices and open small store front centers like FED X and UPS. I could go on but the point I’m making is the model they use is broken and need to be reimagined.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Luggage

Not too many people actually read the entire articles so here are some facts.
Congress has decreed to the post office that they must by law fully fund their pension, no other part of the government does this including social security. The slowdown is actually to save money. So that taxpayers do not have to fund additionally post office needs nor will they have to have postage stamps go up every single year. The slowdown is simply so that most first class mail which goes by airplane to maintain the old 3-day standard to be having first class delivered anywhere in the Continental to become abandoned (3 day standard) and be allowed to go by truck so we have a new 5-day standard which will save significant money and actually make things more efficient. Most businesses will adapt as they understand the process. Yes it'll take a little more time to get checks and letters but as long as things don't get changed every 5 weeks that is what businesses prefer. Some credit card companies have more than one location to receive money that's called Dropbox banking and I'm sure a few more will now provide additional addresses. Just remember the old excuse the check is always in the mail.

Originally Posted by Luggage

Dejoy is solving the problem of the post office running a deficit by getting rid of stupid standards of having every piece of mail fly in an airplane when a truck would do just as well

Yup & Yup!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

Here is a solution. Stop Saturday delivery. Stop delivering junk mail of which 99% ends up in a trash can at the post boxes never having been read or even looked or double the price of delivering that junk. Like every other organization weed out the dead wood. Hire a professional CEO, to run the organization instead of appointing political friends. Build larger distribution centers and close large post offices and open small store front centers like FED X and UPS. I could go on but the point I’m making is the model they use is broken and need to be reimagined.

He's an expert in Logistics...

I don't want a career mail carrier running the entire Postal Service...

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

Gotta tell ya even I find it hard to believe the current admin will try to sell ya on slowing a service, charging you more for it, and then trying to convince you it is in YOUR best interest and to YOUR advantage.....ohdear:

It's not the "current admin" doing it, it is the current USPS boss (DeJoy), of whom as it was pointed out earlier - is actually untouchable by the current administration.


Mail delivery slowdown: USPS to slow delivery starting October 1 - CBS News

"Starting on October 1, the postal service's current three-day delivery standard for first-class mail — letters, bills, tax documents and the like — will drop to delivery anywhere within the U.S. within five days."


USPS Board of Governors nominees say they haven't been pressured about DeJoy - CNNPolitics

"The President cannot remove the postmaster general. Only the Postal Service Board of Governors -- which is comprised of members nominated by the President and confirmed in the Senate -- has the power to do so."

[JoelJohnson]

Here is the story behind why the Post Office "loses" money.

Postal Service losing money because of congressional mandate not low prices, expert says | News | Notre Dame News | University of Notre Dame

[Ktygrett]

Originally Posted by tvbound

A quick search will show what the USPS boss (Louis DeJoy) is trying to do long term, which is to slow down most mail delivery.

I cannot believe he is still in charge. He has a huge conflict of interest in his investments and is destroying our Post Office on purpose. He is horrible.
Way past time for him to go.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

The current administration did not install DeJoy...... remember?

Neither did the last one... The Postal Board of Governors of the Post office did...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Ktygrett

I cannot believe he is still in charge. He has a huge conflict of interest in his investments and is destroying our Post Office on purpose. He is horrible.
Way past time for him to go.

What is his "huge conflict of interest"?

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Mail delivery slowdown: USPS to slow delivery starting October 1 - CBS News

So maybe its not your or our imagination, but maybe there is some truth behind the old USPS is gone, and the new USPS is not like we all remember.

Just wish that packages would stop disappearing.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I agree, it is sad. It seems many feel it is better to do away with things that are broken than to fix them. Post Office, Public Schools, etc were all the best in the world when created, and most are now broken. Once upon a time, we worked together to solve problems, now all we do is argue. I think the great experiment is over.

It has always been so. Things are never perfect yet, we expect, demand perfection.
Aside-things throughout history, have never been perfect."Now all we do is argue." That too is not new. From the time Christopher Columbus discovered this land. There were people wondering that the Indians were already here. For me, communication is and always was the problem. We deal with one issue at a time. Reality has always been everything happening at once. Solve problems? We do not solve problems. Most problems that we try to solve create other problems that did not exist or went um-noticed. "The great experiment," it is interesting that The declaration of Independence, the Constitution even George Washington there were arguments. There were people SCREAMING to make George Washington KING.

[petiteone]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The mail service is in the situation it's in currently, because the Postmaster General wants it that way. He can't be "fired" by anyone other than the board, and the Board doesn't seem interested in firing him.

He is making bank by destroying the USPS. He has financial interests in other delivery services, and every time USPS suffers, more people use those other delivery services. This is simple logic, simple math. There's no zebra here at all; it's a horse.

It's not a secret, it's not a mysterious conspiracy alt-whatever political whosiwats. It's plain as day, known, a given.

Biden can fire the Board Members who were installed during the last Admin. They are the ones supporting the DeJoy nonsense.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by petiteone

Biden can fire the Board Members who were installed during the last Admin. They are the ones supporting the DeJoy nonsense.

Actually, as much as I would like that, Biden can not fire them without cause. And destroying the Post Office is not considered cause.

And even if he could, then he would have to get new members past the Senate where the filibuster would ensure that didn't happen until the previous administration is back in office again. Like they did last time.

[Ptmckiou]

USPS was never developed to make a profit. It’s a service to the citizens of the USA. The last administration didn’t seem to understand this and torn out a lot of equipment in the processing centers which slowed the mail delivery, interestingly right before the election which had mail in ballots. Those millions of dollars of high speed processing equipment was trashed, so can’t be replaced. Sad how things are being destroyed from the inside by people with no experience and usually have interest in competing service companies.

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Mail delivery slowdown: USPS to slow delivery starting October 1 - CBS News

So maybe its not your or our imagination, but maybe there is some truth behind the old USPS is gone, and the new USPS is not like we all remember.

On the face of it, it sounds bad as we are now used to having things delivered to us almost instantly, as is the case with Amazon. Especially after Covid, so many more people rely on the mail/delivery than before for essentials like meds, groceries, etc.

Meanwhile, USPS continues to bleed money every year no matter how many times they raise rates. So now they are trying a different approach.

Not every type of mail will be delayed. Mainly first class letters and some packages and not all it depends on the location. Also, items like magazines, ads (junk mail), flyers, circulars, etc. They will be moving by truck instead of planes now. Priority/Mail packages still are 2-3 days as you are paying through the nose for the faster delivery. The announcement just comes at a bad time with the holidays looming and postal rates going up again as of today!

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

On the face of it, it sounds bad as we are now used to having things delivered to us almost instantly, as is the case with Amazon. Especially after Covid, so many more people rely on the mail/delivery than before for essentials like meds, groceries, etc.

Meanwhile, USPS continues to bleed money every year no matter how many times they raise rates. So now they are trying a different approach.

Not every type of mail will be delayed. Mainly first class letters and some packages and not all it depends on the location. Also, items like magazines, ads (junk mail), flyers, circulars, etc. They will be moving by truck instead of planes now. Priority/Mail packages still are 2-3 days as you are paying through the nose for the faster delivery. The announcement just comes at a bad time with the holidays looming and postal rates going up again as of today!

Well, "bleeding money" is not entirely accurate, the main reason for fiscal issues is the change in requirements (applicable only to the USPS) in having 10 years of retirement funding in the bank - so to speak. It does seem the people that have been screaming for years to end the post office are finally getting their dream, a few years of higher prices and slower service and it will fade into the past.

Just coincidence?