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Is it me or 2 lane roundabouts just don't work?

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Old 02-12-2021, 06:14 PM
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Here's a little experiment for you:

Look at an old fashioned watch. See how the hands connect in the middle. Now change the time to exactly 6 o'clock.

Look at those hands. They go straight up and down. Or, if you were in a roundabout, straight north and south. Or straight east and west.

Notice there is no way to go STRAIGHT through that clock, from south to north, without running into the center of the clock where the two hands meet.

If that were a traffic circle, and you were going STRAIGHT through the roundabout, you would do the same thing with your car. I can assure you, the results would be unpleasant.

No, in order to move your finger around counter-clockwise from "near-center" (the inside lane), you go around, UNTIL you see the 12 o'clock coming up on your...what is that called? Oh yeah. On your right. When you see that 12 o'clock number coming up on your right, you veer away from the counter-clockwise movement, and instead, go to your RIGHT.

If you don't go to your right, you will simply continue going around in circles, endlessly, until you run out of gas or get a blister on your finger (depending on whether you're driving a car or moving your finger around a watch face).

You are physically, literally, moving RIGHT when you exit out of a traffic circle. That is what you are doing with your hands on the wheel, it's what your car is doing, and that's why you're supposed to put on your RIGHT turn signal when you exit.
Let me try to educate you a different way:

It's a CIRCLE, with traffic continually moving around. It is NOT a traditional intersection with a left lane and a right lane. You are NOT making a "right" turn, EVER. You are exiting right, if you prefer that terminology. If it were an intersection of two 4 lane roads, you would go left from the left lane, right from the right lane, and straight from EITHER lane. That is exactly what happens in the RB, except the left turn is a 270 degree "travel" through the RB, a right turn is a 90 degree travel, and straight is 180 degrees. When you use the inner lane to go straight, YOU ARE NOT TURNING RIGHT.

Also, consider this. Ever travel of the turnpike to Orlando? Many "exits" are 2 lane exits, where the right lane MUST exit and the 2nd from the right lane MAY exit. If you view that situation in isolation, your premise is that the car in the inner/left exit lane is making a right turn from the left lane. Don't argue, it's EXACTLY the same thing as the RBs. To take it further, if there is an entrance lane just before the exit, those cars that are coming into the turnpike MUST YIELD to traffic in BOTH exit lanes, just like in a RB

Get it now??????
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This thread is amazing. Something as simple as a traffic circle has people confused and befuddled. Two posters, whom I often disagree with, still don't get it. They are NOT dumb, I respect them both as highly intelligent and articulate (although a bit misguided) What is it about these RBs?
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I've been saying all along that roundabouts in The Villages, with folks that have never seen them before and are inherently bad drivers anyway, should be single lane. You can explain the proper procedure of maneuvering through them all you want, but the simple point is that there is not a given hour of the day, of the year, decade, etc. that you won't find that 90% of the operators handle a roundabout incorrectly.

Single lane is the only solution. Instruction fails miserably.

Too much traffic for single lane. If that was the solution all roads should be single two lane roads. Just imagine how long it would take to go down 441 or 75.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:09 AM
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What if you’re discussing Reverse Mortgages, wearing a mask, in a round about and your dog poops?
Then get out your white cross and pray that you aren’t headed to Traders Joe’s, Cosco or an Executive Golf Course.
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When I taught my kids to drive I cautioned them to drive as if every other driver was out to kill them. Watch them like a hawk.
That is the best way to go through the roundabouts.
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.
It's the dumb drivers, not the roundabouts.
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I don't have a problem with them. Just follow the rules and everyone will be ok. But be cautious for others .
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I don't have a problem with them. Just follow the rules and everyone will be ok. But be cautious for others .
IF ONLY that was what actually happens.........
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.
Roundabouts are only as safe as the worst driver in the roundabout. If the GOAT on astroturf is TB12, there is no confusion.
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I don't have a problem with them. Just follow the rules and everyone will be ok. But be cautious for others .
It's not that bad when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 2 lanes, or 1 lane exiting onto 1 lane. But when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 1 lane it's confusing, dangerous, and a little scary.

ESPECIALLY when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 1 lane PLUS a golf cart path slicing right at that spot, AND the golf cart path is somewhat obscured by a wall, before everyone gets to that point.
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It's not that bad when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 2 lanes, or 1 lane exiting onto 1 lane. But when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 1 lane it's confusing, dangerous, and a little scary.

ESPECIALLY when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 1 lane PLUS a golf cart path slicing right at that spot, AND the golf cart path is somewhat obscured by a wall, before everyone gets to that point.
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.
You are doing it wrong and you are the problem, not the solution.
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.
You must be from the north. We all learned how to drive a rotary and it is one lane one car. Whoever is in the circle has the right of way otherwise you wait. Unless you are making an immediate right and think you an beat the car coming around the corner. I see at least one accident a week on Morse Blvd and these poorly planned circles. A true round about is one lane off set the the right designed to slow down traffic at an intersection.
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