[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

All true, and add
***watch out for drivers going the wrong way in the RB
***watch out for cyclists in a pack of 20 blowing through the yield sign as if they were one entity
***beware non-street legal golf carts cutting across lanes in front of you
***beware cars going 270 around the RB in the outer lane, and cars exiting at 90 from the inner lane
***Be especially concerned if a car with out of state handicapped plates is approaching the entrance to the RB
***and my favorite, beware the driver who just stops dead in the middle of a RB, usually just far enough ahead that you can't see her around the circle

Enjoy your drive today!

Probably was not NICE to say "HER" in that last statement, at least not politically correct, or even a "good" joke. "Her" implies that women are stupid and worse drivers than men, which insurance statistics say is NOT true. If it was intended as a JOKE that is not TOO terrible and misogynistic - but it is still a too -old joke and ceased to be funny after 1950!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Just assume the other drivers will not stop, cut into your lane, cut you off or hit you and you will be fine!!

Just buy a Hummer and add extra bumpers to the front, back, and both sides. No problem, then you are good to go!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I've been saying all along that roundabouts in The Villages, with folks that have never seen them before and are inherently bad drivers anyway, should be single lane. You can explain the proper procedure of maneuvering through them all you want, but the simple point is that there is not a given hour of the day, of the year, decade, etc. that you won't find that 90% of the operators handle a roundabout incorrectly.

Single lane is the only solution. Instruction fails miserably.

I agree with that - and I rarely agree with poster Mr. B. The world truly IS full of surprises.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by xcaligirl

I do the same. I'll never understand the inside lane able to turn right!! I will always think they are set up for more crashes.

That's only because you don't understand. The inner lane is NOT making a right turn from the left lane

[clgill]

Most states have 2 roundabout lanes (like we do) so that fire trucks, semi's, motor homes, etc. can get through the roundabout easily using both inner and outer lanes. Most states raise the inner lane surface approximately an inch and use bricks that have a rougher surface so cars naturally stay off the inner lane. That way everyone in the roundabout is in single file so there is no need for complemented and confusing instructions. It's that easy folks! I would imagine The Villages will retrofit all roundabouts to conform with this method thus eliminating the majority of roundabout accidents that occur on a daily basis. To make it further uncomplicated (for those that need it) a sign reading 'INNER LANE FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ONLY' could be placed at each entrance to the roundabout, although that's not needed in most states.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Probably was not NICE to say "HER" in that last statement, at least not politically correct, or even a "good" joke. "Her" implies that women are stupid and worse drivers than men, which insurance statistics say is NOT true. If it was intended as a JOKE that is not TOO terrible and misogynistic - but it is still a too -old joke and ceased to be funny after 1950!

Too bad. Get a life!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by clgill

Most states have 2 roundabout lanes (like we do) so that fire trucks, semi's, motor homes, etc. can get through the roundabout easily using both inner and outer lanes. Most states raise the inner lane surface approximately an inch and use bricks that have a rougher surface so cars naturally stay off the inner lane. That way everyone in the roundabout is in single file so there is no need for complemented and confusing instructions. It's that easy folks! I would imagine The Villages will retrofit all roundabouts to conform with this method thus eliminating the majority of roundabout accidents that occur on a daily basis. To make it further uncomplicated (for those that need it) a sign reading 'INNER LANE FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ONLY' could be placed at each entrance to the roundabout, although that's not needed in most states.

Seriously? There are signs at the roundabouts now that provide perfect instructions on how to navigate them safely. This thread (and I take it there are several others) exist because some drivers choose to ignore those signs.

Also, I can't see turning a two lane circle into a one lane circle by changing the surface of the inside lane and then adding a sign that references a lane that visually doesn't exist as a way to uncomplicate anything.

How many roundabout accidents happen on a daily basis? Granted, I don't visit many roundabouts each day, but in over five months of living here I have seen exactly zero accidents; I would have expected to see at least one.

Leave the two-lane circles alone and spend time on driver training. Driver training will be less costly, will not create bottlenecks to increase congestion, and will benefit the drivers when they encounter circles elsewhere.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Regor

You're thinking like it's okay to take a right from the left lane is what causes accidents. The inner lane is not the "straight" lane. That would ONLY work if the right lane entering the roundabout HAD to take the first exit. They don't have to take the 1st exit.

They have to take the first or second exit. Regardless you enter in the outside right lane you are commenting to turn at the first or second exit. It you don’t you better be yielding at the second exit. If you hit car in the left lane going STRAIGHT through at second exit you will be at fault.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Psacc0

One main reason this legal maneuver would be a problem is because people coming from the east and north would not yield before entering. All traffic, in the roundabout, both lanes, have the right of way. Entering vehicles must yield to all traffic, both lanes.

You can't always SEE traffic in both lanes. Traffic directly across from you is obscured by trees. You have no idea that they're even there, until you've already entered the circle and they come around behind you.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That's only because you don't understand. The inner lane is NOT making a right turn from the left lane

Yes, you are. If you are in the inside lane of a 2-lane roundabout, then you are in the LEFT lane. You are LEFT of the outside lane, of a roundabout that only has two lanes. Only one can be the left one, and only one can be the right one. The inside lane in a roundabout that goes counter-clockwise, is a LEFT lane.

If you are exiting the roundabout, no matter where that exit is when you get to it - you are exiting to your RIGHT. You -cannot- exit to the left. You're already left. Any further left, and you will be in the MIDDLE of the roundabout, and not in any lane at all.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Yes, you are. If you are in the inside lane of a 2-lane roundabout, then you are in the LEFT lane. You are LEFT of the outside lane, of a roundabout that only has two lanes. Only one can be the left one, and only one can be the right one. The inside lane in a roundabout that goes counter-clockwise, is a LEFT lane.

If you are exiting the roundabout, no matter where that exit is when you get to it - you are exiting to your RIGHT. You -cannot- exit to the left. You're already left. Any further left, and you will be in the MIDDLE of the roundabout, and not in any lane at all.

NO, YOU'RE NOT. Of course you can't exit left, that's why you are NOT making a right turn from a left lane when you choose to go straight through a RB in the inner lane. DOH!!! Maybe it would help you, and all the others that don't understand, to not think of it as a left lane, just an inside lane

[stebooo]

The only issue I have is if I am taking the second exit I have to fear a car in the right lane who isn't in the right lane. I have to either slow down or speed up and signal. I'm on but most aren't. Not sure our generation will ever get it right.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

NO, YOU'RE NOT. Of course you can't exit left, that's why you are NOT making a right turn from a left lane when you choose to go straight through a RB in the inner lane. DOH!!! Maybe it would help you, and all the others that don't understand, to not think of it as a left lane, just an inside lane

Here's a little experiment for you:

Look at an old fashioned watch. See how the hands connect in the middle. Now change the time to exactly 6 o'clock.

Look at those hands. They go straight up and down. Or, if you were in a roundabout, straight north and south. Or straight east and west.

Notice there is no way to go STRAIGHT through that clock, from south to north, without running into the center of the clock where the two hands meet.

If that were a traffic circle, and you were going STRAIGHT through the roundabout, you would do the same thing with your car. I can assure you, the results would be unpleasant.

No, in order to move your finger around counter-clockwise from "near-center" (the inside lane), you go around, UNTIL you see the 12 o'clock coming up on your...what is that called? Oh yeah. On your right. When you see that 12 o'clock number coming up on your right, you veer away from the counter-clockwise movement, and instead, go to your RIGHT.

If you don't go to your right, you will simply continue going around in circles, endlessly, until you run out of gas or get a blister on your finger (depending on whether you're driving a car or moving your finger around a watch face).

You are physically, literally, moving RIGHT when you exit out of a traffic circle. That is what you are doing with your hands on the wheel, it's what your car is doing, and that's why you're supposed to put on your RIGHT turn signal when you exit.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by clgill

Most states have 2 roundabout lanes (like we do) so that fire trucks, semi's, motor homes, etc. can get through the roundabout easily using both inner and outer lanes. Most states raise the inner lane surface approximately an inch and use bricks that have a rougher surface so cars naturally stay off the inner lane. That way everyone in the roundabout is in single file so there is no need for complemented and confusing instructions. It's that easy folks! I would imagine The Villages will retrofit all roundabouts to conform with this method thus eliminating the majority of roundabout accidents that occur on a daily basis. To make it further uncomplicated (for those that need it) a sign reading 'INNER LANE FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ONLY' could be placed at each entrance to the roundabout, although that's not needed in most states.

Accidents on a daily basis,,,,I think not. More accidents at intersections.
Darn it I told myself not to post on anymore roundabout threads.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Here's a little experiment for you:

Look at an old fashioned watch. See how the hands connect in the middle. Now change the time to exactly 6 o'clock.

Look at those hands. They go straight up and down. Or, if you were in a roundabout, straight north and south. Or straight east and west.

Notice there is no way to go STRAIGHT through that clock, from south to north, without running into the center of the clock where the two hands meet.

If that were a traffic circle, and you were going STRAIGHT through the roundabout, you would do the same thing with your car. I can assure you, the results would be unpleasant.

No, in order to move your finger around counter-clockwise from "near-center" (the inside lane), you go around, UNTIL you see the 12 o'clock coming up on your...what is that called? Oh yeah. On your right. When you see that 12 o'clock number coming up on your right, you veer away from the counter-clockwise movement, and instead, go to your RIGHT.

If you don't go to your right, you will simply continue going around in circles, endlessly, until you run out of gas or get a blister on your finger (depending on whether you're driving a car or moving your finger around a watch face).

You are physically, literally, moving RIGHT when you exit out of a traffic circle. That is what you are doing with your hands on the wheel, it's what your car is doing, and that's why you're supposed to put on your RIGHT turn signal when you exit.

Or you could think about the center of the circle like a box in the road - you steer around the box in order to continue going straight.