[Stu from NYC]

It is remarkable how many people on these boards seem to know more than very experienced physicians who are nice enough to share their knowledge with us.

[Retired gal]

As a child, I got measles, mumps, and chicken pox. I got a vaccine for pertussis (whooping cough) and polio, thank goodness.

About 10 years ago, I went to the doctor because I couldn’t shake this cough I had. Turns out my immunity to pertussis was either gone or very weak, as I had it! It now makes me wonder if my immunity to other diseases I had as a child are still strong.

[cbv0211]

Originally Posted by RICH1

I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

Fear mongering.

[coralway]

It is very comforting knowing I live in a Village full of medical experts.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Retired gal

As a child, I got measles, mumps, and chicken pox. I got a vaccine for pertussis (whooping cough) and polio, thank goodness.

About 10 years ago, I went to the doctor because I couldn’t shake this cough I had. Turns out my immunity to pertussis was either gone or very weak, as I had it! It now makes me wonder if my immunity to other diseases I had as a child are still strong.

Two factors are at play:

1) In general, the more time that passes after a vaccine, the less effective it becomes.

2) The older we get, the less efficient our immune system becomes.

Pertussis vaccine is known to lose its effectiveness over time---this why the current recommendation is for grandparents that want to hold a newborn to get re-vaccinated with pertussis vaccine

[Michael G.]

Can you remember back in grade school getting shots for measles, mumps, chicken pox, pneumonia and polo etc?
Can you also recall there was no choice to get vaccinated like the covid19 shot today, everybody get the shot?

What changed??

[blueash]

My grandparents came to this country as unwashed immigrants, and the bigoted nativists even then screamed out that these dirty people were going to infect good Americans with diseases. Nothing has changed. The nativists are still using the same tropes and the same fear mongering against immigrants. We have had over 40 million immigrants alive in the US now, most entered outside the quota system.

Now tell me, how many infectious measles outbreaks have they caused, 40 million people. There was one in 2018 from a person from Ukraine. There was a large outbreak in an American born Orthodox Jewish NY community with a low vaccination rate and travel to Israel not immigrant related. Obviously this one could have been prevented by insisting on Americans being vaccinated before flying.

2017 an outbreak in US born Somalis in Minnesota, another vaccine refusing group.
2016 the only recent documented report in an immigrant group from the southern border.
There was a large outbreak in 2015 associated with visiting Disneyland in California. As the CDC reported:

Of the 159 measles cases, 153 (96%) were import-associated. Ten cases were classified as direct importations, (six among unvaccinated U.S. residents returning from overseas travel, of whom three were aged 6–11 months and age-eligible for vaccination before departure, and four among foreign visitors). Countries associated with direct importations included Azerbaijan, China, Germany, India, Indonesia, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, Qatar, Singapore, and United Arab Emirates (one import each).

The theme with measles is no different than that with Covid. While importation across our southern border is not zero, it is also not why we get outbreaks. Those who wish to blame our border policy lack evidence other than their confirmation bias layered on top of their nativist thinking.
And like Covid, get your shots as instructed by the experts at the CDC and you will overwhelmingly be protected.

What is the experience with measles in Texas, right at the epicenter of all those dirty unwashed illegals from countries with no shot requirement? The answer might be found on the Texas Department of health's website last updated March 2021

" Because measles is still endemic in many parts of the world and is highly contagious, measles can easily be re-introduced into Texas in unvaccinated communities. This was seen in 2013, when a person traveling to Asia returned with the measles and interacted with a vaccine-hesitant community. In a matter of weeks, 20 additional people were infected with measles. Overall in 2013, 27 cases were reported, the highest annual case count in over 20 years. In 2017, one case of measles was reported in Texas.
"

[Escape Artist]

I was told I wasn't immune to German Measles (rubella) and when I asked my doctor to vaccinate me for it she waved her hand and said don't worry about it.

[Blueblaze]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Can you remember back in grade school getting shots for measles, mumps, chicken pox, pneumonia and polo etc?
Can you also recall there was no choice to get vaccinated like the covid19 shot today, everybody get the shot?

What changed??

Well, I think one thing that changed was that those were ordinary vaccines, instead of experimental gene manipulation vaccines not yet approved by the FDA for children.

And those diseases primarily effected children, unlike COVID that primarily effects old people.

And they weren't required by everybody -- just children enrolling in school.

But there was one similarity -- measles has a death rate almost identical to Covid-19: 0.6%

Odd, isn't it. I wonder why we didn't panic and hide in our basements from the Measles back in the '50's. We not only didn't panic, but back before the vaccines, we used to have Measles parties in the summer so the kids would get it over with and not miss school! Now we prevent kids from going to school to protect them from a 0.6% risk (actually much less than that, in the case of Covid and kids)!

So I guess that's changed. We used to be a nation that won a world war, while fighting a flu pandemic that killed millions. Now we're a nation of panty-waists who put working people on the dole and run their employers out of business, to save them from a disease that mostly only kills retired people!

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by RICH1

I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

Don’t know, not a doctor just curious how that clothing drive is coming along?

[Billy1]

I remember back in the day.

[geobet]

Unvaccinated children have been riding the coattails of the vaccinated children for years. They are the ones at risk of getting not only measles but other diseases when they are brought into our country. There have been several measles and mumps outbreaks in the Northwest over the past few years thanks to anti-vaxer parents.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Can you remember back in grade school getting shots for measles, mumps, chicken pox, pneumonia and polo etc?
Can you also recall there was no choice to get vaccinated like the covid19 shot today, everybody get the shot?

What changed??

Not everyone as a child went to doctors, and were vaccinated. I grew up with herbs, roots, Native American grandparents and a shaman.

[RoadToad]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Well, I think one thing that changed was that those were ordinary vaccines, instead of experimental gene manipulation vaccines not yet approved by the FDA for children.

And those diseases primarily effected children, unlike COVID that primarily effects old people.

And they weren't required by everybody -- just children enrolling in school.

But there was one similarity -- measles has a death rate almost identical to Covid-19: 0.6%

Odd, isn't it. I wonder why we didn't panic and hide in our basements from the Measles back in the '50's. We not only didn't panic, but back before the vaccines, we used to have Measles parties in the summer so the kids would get it over with and not miss school! Now we prevent kids from going to school to protect them from a 0.6% risk (actually much less than that, in the case of Covid and kids)!

So I guess that's changed. We used to be a nation that won a world war, while fighting a flu pandemic that killed millions. Now we're a nation of panty-waists who put working people on the dole and run their employers out of business, to save them from a disease that mostly only kills retired people!

You appear to be misinformed...or something else is on the agends..
No Gene manipulation is involved whatsoever.
Might want to give this a read if you are actually interested in the FACTS.
Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

[maggie1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Are you asking me or telling me???

But FYI, prior to 1963 (when MMR became available), there were 4 million cases of measles/year. Now there are less than 1000.
Of course your grandchildren got vaccinated, it would be irresponsible of their parents to refuse it. However, there are other ways you can get measles, especially considering it is still common in other parts of the world. So be careful where you travel without getting re-vaccinated (unless you were born prior to 1957, in which case be VERY careful), or which foreign travelers you get close to. In either case, your risk of measles is extremely low, NOT "odds are I could get it"

I was born in 1942, and had mumps, measles, and chickenpox. From what I understand, I'm pretty much immune from any of the three after having built up antibodies that stay with me for the rest of my life. Unfortunately, the chickenpox virus brings with it the potential for contracting shingle, which I have also had (worst pain I've ever experienced) and have since received the vaccination for this as well. Had the polio vaccine when it became available, and completed the two shots of Pfizer, and look forward to getting the booster when it becomes available. Antivaxers are just gambling with the odds that they, or their children, won't develop these diseases and I'll never understand why!