[Jean G]

There is that and much more streaming across our Southern Boarder in much bigger numbers daily.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by dlsd58

make sure you have the shingrx vaccine (shingles) which is caused from the measles virus...

That statement needs some correction:

FYI, shingles is caused by the re-activation of the varicella virus (chicken pox) , which stays dormant in the dorsal root ganglia of your spinal cord after acute infection. It then, usually after advancing in years, or stressed by a major illness or trauma, crawls down a single dermatome of a spinal or cranial nerve and causes the distinctive rash of shingles. And that's why you should get a SHINGRIX vaccine. Nothing whatsoever to do with measles

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Dot Rheinhardt

When my husband was in the army, my son and some of the army kids got the measles. One mother did not as her kid didn't either. Later she was pregnant and got the measles. Her baby was born without arms or legs. I had measles in college and so did my daughter. Now it is not prevalent in the US, but I wonder about immigrants bringing it in if they haven't been vaccinated.

Regular measles, rubeola, the kind we are talking about here does NOT cause birth defects but is in itself a significant illness in those who become infected.

There is an entirely different illness, rubella, AKA German measles that is a trivial illness in those who catch it. The only concern with rubella is the damage it can cause to the fetus. Rubella is the R in MMR. Rubella does not cause children to be born without arms or legs. So whatever illness your army friend had, it was not measles or german measles that led to this sad outcome. If this child was born in 1960-61 and the mother was in Europe, being the military, she may have been given Thalidomide which did cause this outcome.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by blueash

Regular measles, rubeola, the kind we are talking about here does NOT cause birth defects but is in itself a significant illness in those who become infected.

There is an entirely different illness, rubella, AKA German measles that is a trivial illness in those who catch it. The only concern with rubella is the damage it can cause to the fetus. Rubella is the R in MMR. Rubella does not cause children to be born without arms or legs. So whatever illness your army friend had, it was not measles or german measles that led to this sad outcome. If this child was born in 1960-61 and the mother was in Europe, being the military, she may have been given Thalidomide which did cause this outcome.

Agree. Sounds more like the phocomelia caused by Thalidomide.

[DaveGodin]

I understand they are being screened for and given required vaccinations, including for COVID. These people are not just being dumped out on the streets.

[DaveGodin]

They are being screened for and given required vaccinations, including for COVID. There are several news articles about this. These people are not just being dumped out on the streets.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

Not to worry, it seems to have disappeared all of a sudden like the normal flu did last year......from over1,000 cases the year before to 2 cases last year....url=https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html]Measles Cases and Outbreaks | CDC[/url]

WELL, actually as far as RISKS go - it is just the OPPOSITE! Flu is REPORTED / PREDICTED to INCREASE this winter - due to society and schools OPENING up more THIS year than last. Last year more people tended to quarantine, traveled less, and wear masks. In general, they felt more risks and acted accordingly.
.........I am NOT sure about measles, but I would assume an increase this winter.
.........If post #2 was correct about 1,000 deaths per year from measles, that would be insignificant compared to CV deaths.
..........However, the Afghanistan population infusion could increase that unless at the US bases, they got shots? Somehow, I doubt that - probably due to religious reasons.
I consider that my information about predicted increased FLU - is solid information from respected TV news hosts and a respected newspaper.
........ These dashed ones are my OWN conjecture and opinions which I give over to the Forum for further discussion by the TV Land experts.....sincerely.
........Incidentally, the only LINKS that I could be sure that are more than opinion or worse - dark conspiracies - are CUFFLINKS ! I can't live my life going around memorizing LINKS that, anyway, would be shot down by 60% of posters as liberal, commie TV channels and newspapers. Sorry!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

As a child, I had the measles, mumps, chicken pox, pneumonia and various other childhood illnesses. In those days, we did not get vaccinated for that stuff. I did get the polio vaccination via sugar cubes. So, I received my immunity by surviving the illnesses. Whether or not I still have the immunity, I guess an expert will tell. I have never had the flu as far as I can tell, but I also never get the flu vaccination. Maybe once I get it and (if) survive it, I might consider getting the flu shot in the future. I have been vaccinated for the Covid, but actually did it based on my spouse's medical condition. Even though I had the chicken pox, and I do not know whether the immunity would help dealing with shingles, I still got my shingles shot when I heard that a neighbor had a bad case of shingles. I have seen how it effects folks and how painful it is, so I was vaccinated.
Be careful about discussing "measles" or someone might get the idea of doing a "gain of function" study/experimentation on measles.

Personally, I am MORE afraid of getting CV than shingles, because I think (?) that shingles, while painful, IS not A KILLER. IMO.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Personally, I am MORE afraid of getting CV than shingles, because I think (?) that shingles, while painful, IS not A KILLER. IMO.

Not unless you're immunocompromised and get disseminated Zoster, in which case you are dead.

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

I’ll bet plenty of you still have a smallpox vaccination scar. Later, there was a new version that was just an injection and didn’t leave a scar. I remember not being able to touch it until the scab fell off on its own, which took several weeks.

As I understand it the scar was created on purpose so that everyone could tell who was or was not vaccinated.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by dougawhite

As I understand it the scar was created on purpose so that everyone could tell who was or was not vaccinated.

Nope, you got that wrong

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

With the majority of Americans vaccinated or had the measles, the risk of an epidemic is about zero.
This is just fear mongering, and giving some people a political platform to bang their anti-whatever drums.
Get real!

The majority isn’t everyone, get realer. Duh!

Btw, political discussions or remarks aren’t permitted here.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Can you remember back in grade school getting shots for measles, mumps, chicken pox, pneumonia and polo etc?
Can you also recall there was no choice to get vaccinated like the covid19 shot today, everybody get the shot?

What changed??

I am sure that it is well known. But, it is CAUSED by propaganda from abroad and internal regurgitation of that AFOREMENTIONED propaganda. And I am talking about the non-mainstream media.

[Blueblaze]

Originally Posted by Luggage

The big difference is in the infection rate and the method of infection between measles and covid. Covid is much more virulent. Measles patient could be treated at home. Not covid . Covid patient may need lung machines . Not measles . The rate of death is only equal to measles because we have much better care today than 50 years ago. Both are highly preventable with proper vaccination and social distancing. Neither a measles or a covid patient would I kiss on the lips with a tongue insertion.

Really? When I got Covid, I treated myself at home. I took antihistamines and aspirin and in about three days I was good as new -- just like the rest of the 99.6% of people who survive it.

Measles is actually MORE virulent than Covid, among people who have no natural immunity. It's estimated that nearly 90% of the indigenous population of America was wiped out by Measles from contact with the early Spanish explorers, before North America was even colonized.

The weirdest thing about this pandemic is that almost nobody seems to know any actual victims personally. I was born in the middle of a polio pandemic. My parents had friends who lost children. I went to school with crippled survivors. But even though I live in a community of old people at high risk from Covid, two years into this pandemic, I still don't personally know a single victim. However, I do have a neighbor who had a stroke the day after she got her Covid shot. I don't think that counts, though.

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Really? When I got Covid, I treated myself at home. I took antihistamines and aspirin and in about three days I was good as new -- just like the rest of the 99.6% of people who survive it.

Measles is actually MORE virulent than Covid, among people who have no natural immunity. It's estimated that nearly 90% of the indigenous population of America was wiped out by Measles from contact with the early Spanish explorers, before North America was even colonized.

The weirdest thing about this pandemic is that almost nobody seems to know any actual victims personally. I was born in the middle of a polio pandemic. My parents had friends who lost children. I went to school with crippled survivors. But even though I live in a community of old people at high risk from Covid, two years into this pandemic, I still don't personally know a single victim. However, I do have a neighbor who had a stroke the day after she got her Covid shot. I don't think that counts, though.

Iknow dozens of people who had COVID including 6 on my street!