[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Well, I think one thing that changed was that those were ordinary vaccines, instead of experimental gene manipulation vaccines not yet approved by the FDA for children.

And those diseases primarily effected children, unlike COVID that primarily effects old people.

And they weren't required by everybody -- just children enrolling in school.

But there was one similarity -- measles has a death rate almost identical to Covid-19: 0.6%

Odd, isn't it. I wonder why we didn't panic and hide in our basements from the Measles back in the '50's. We not only didn't panic, but back before the vaccines, we used to have Measles parties in the summer so the kids would get it over with and not miss school! Now we prevent kids from going to school to protect them from a 0.6% risk (actually much less than that, in the case of Covid and kids)!

So I guess that's changed. We used to be a nation that won a world war, while fighting a flu pandemic that killed millions. Now we're a nation of panty-waists who put working people on the dole and run their employers out of business, to save them from a disease that mostly only kills retired people!

Well, I don't know about panty-waists (that does NOT seem very fashionable) - but during WW1 MANY G.I.s DIED from the, so-called, Spanish Flu while on ships being transported to Europe. I believe that the Spanish Flu was a misnomer because it REALLY started in KANSAS. And I may be UNLINKED in my historical knowledge, but supposedly, a US President (maybe (?) Woodrow Wilson set up the FLU's name to change from Kansas to Spanish.
At least, today we do NOT want to change the name of the CV to something from Europe. We have "come a long way, baby".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by geobet

Unvaccinated children have been riding the coattails of the vaccinated children for years. They are the ones at risk of getting not only measles but other diseases when they are brought into our country. There have been several measles and mumps outbreaks in the Northwest over the past few years thanks to anti-vaxer parents.

Good post. That is putting the blame where it rightfully belongs. And why does government NOT live up to its main reason for existence - to protect and defend its citizens - from all enemies, from without and from within? Public Health IS responsible for defending US citizens against our invisible germ-type enemies.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

Most of us had measles and chicken pox as a child, long before the vaccine was available. That provided you with a pretty strong immunity, likely life long. Most children are vaccinated with MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) as a condition to enter school. So for the most part, those at risk of contracting the very contagious measles are very young children. That’s a scary thought. Anyone entering the country from another may not be vaccinated for the basics and I can only presume that there will be an all out effort to get those entering from Afghanistan vaccinated quickly.

Presume, but verify.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by JSR22

Iknow dozens of people who had COVID including 6 on my street!

So do I. Several on our street and more that I know personally. One long-hauler as well.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Aces4

The majority isn’t everyone, get realer. Duh!

Btw, political discussions or remarks aren’t permitted here.

Wow!
I learn something every day!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Wow!
I learn something every day!

And I bet you thought Captain Obvious was just a fictional character

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Fltpkr

Is the OP really serious? Sorry, but I just don’t get this kind of a post. Is it really to get an answer to the long term effectiveness of measles vaccination or to provoke nasty conversations that tend to draw out the worst in people. These Afghans? Many of these people have put their lives and families at risk to help us, and they have had to pick-up and leave, likely forever, their homes and the ancestral homes of their mothers and fathers and grandparents, also their neighbors and friends, and we are concerned about possible measles?

A military principle.......trust but verify! I have no problem with any race, creed, or color. I just would rather there be less immigration (of ANY kind) into the US because of the US producing MORE than its share of pollution and therefore global warming. Would any TV Lander with a gasoline golf car be willing to switch to an electric golf car in order to let in one or two immigrants? I did NOT see MANY hands go up. And what about all-electric lawnmowers in TV Land?
Did Australia, New Zealand, Iceland, Russia, France and etc take THEIR fair share of immigrants?
I DO worry about MEASLES that is brought to the US by legal and illegal immigrants.
But, I worry MORE about the years after they come here and their future pollution when they start driving and pushing their gasoline lawnmowers.
Measles can be dealt with by Public Health Doctors and staff. There is NO Doctor that can cure you after you drown from a Hurricane or die in a fire in a western forest.
Yes, measle prevention and treatment IS important. My question is if it is far overshadowed by other problems? Yes, MORE unvaccinated people will bring with them MORE MEASLES and other UNSEEN problems!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by RICH1

I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

Originally Posted by cbv0211

Fear mongering.

I agree!
“Evidently”, what the h$## does that mean? A best guess or straight from a talking head?

[macawlaw]

Originally Posted by RICH1

I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

It depends. There was a period in the late 50s/early 60s that the vaccine was not as effective and there were breakthrough cases. I know. I was one of them. There were enough cases to make it into a news magazine, as I remember reading about it while I was in bed.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by MidWestIA

What about all the immigrants the liberals want to let flood in with NO VACCINATIONS or check at the border - some had TB

Yea, those darn liberals……….
Had you Covid vaccine yet?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Skeety

Why don't you get the facts instead of spouting off half assed ignorance? 🙄🙄

Oh my god there are so many,which one are you referring to?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Lol, it was reported that only about 8000-9000 Afghans should have been evacuated and the rest rode their coattails.

Reported? By whom?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Jean G

There is that and much more streaming across our Southern Boarder in much bigger numbers daily.

That? What?

[DonnaNi4os]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That statement needs some correction:

FYI, shingles is caused by the re-activation of the varicella virus (chicken pox) , which stays dormant in the dorsal root ganglia of your spinal cord after acute infection. It then, usually after advancing in years, or stressed by a major illness or trauma, crawls down a single dermatome of a spinal or cranial nerve and causes the distinctive rash of shingles. And that's why you should get a SHINGRIX vaccine. Nothing whatsoever to do with measles

Originally Posted by dlsd58

make sure you have the shingrx vaccine (shingles) which is caused from the measles virus...

You can only get shingles if you have had chicken pox. It lives dormant in your body. Shingles has nothing whatsoever to do with measles!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

A military principle.......trust but verify! I have no problem with any race, creed, or color. I just would rather there be less immigration (of ANY kind) into the US because of the US producing MORE than its share of pollution and therefore global warming. Would any TV Lander with a gasoline golf car be willing to switch to an electric golf car in order to let in one or two immigrants? I did NOT see MANY hands go up. And what about all-electric lawnmowers in TV Land?
Did Australia, New Zealand, Iceland, Russia, France and etc take THEIR fair share of immigrants?
I DO worry about MEASLES that is brought to the US by legal and illegal immigrants.
But, I worry MORE about the years after they come here and their future pollution when they start driving and pushing their gasoline lawnmowers.
Measles can be dealt with by Public Health Doctors and staff. There is NO Doctor that can cure you after you drown from a Hurricane or die in a fire in a western forest.
Yes, measle prevention and treatment IS important. My question is if it is far overshadowed by other problems? Yes, MORE unvaccinated people will bring with them MORE MEASLES and other UNSEEN problems!

You must really like the latest Texas abortion law. Far less people using gasoline lawn mowers.