[DonnaNi4os]

DougWhite the scar was the result of the way it was administered. I received mine in my upper thigh, my mom said the physician told her that one day I might want to wear a strapless dress and he didn’t want the scar to show. I used to administer small pox vaccines back when you opened a vial, applied it to the skin and then pricked the area with a tiny needle, several times. That is why the result was a scar that resembled a scar left by small pox. It wasn’t meant to be a sign to prove vaccination.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not unless you're immunocompromised and get disseminated Zoster, in which case you are dead.

Thank you, I will be sure to stay away from Zoster, either disseminated or his sister - Undisseminated.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

You can only get shingles if you have had chicken pox. It lives dormant in your body. Shingles has nothing whatsoever to do with measles!

I previously posted:

"Originally Posted by golfing eagles View Post

FYI, shingles is caused by the re-activation of the varicella virus (chicken pox) , which stays dormant in the dorsal root ganglia of your spinal cord after acute infection. It then, usually after advancing in years, or stressed by a major illness or trauma, crawls down a single dermatome of a spinal or cranial nerve and causes the distinctive rash of shingles. And that's why you should get a SHINGRIX vaccine. Nothing whatsoever to do with measles"

Was I not clear enough???????

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Really? When I got Covid, I treated myself at home. I took antihistamines and aspirin and in about three days I was good as new -- just like the rest of the 99.6% of people who survive it.

Measles is actually MORE virulent than Covid, among people who have no natural immunity. It's estimated that nearly 90% of the indigenous population of America was wiped out by Measles from contact with the early Spanish explorers, before North America was even colonized.

The weirdest thing about this pandemic is that almost nobody seems to know any actual victims personally. I was born in the middle of a polio pandemic. My parents had friends who lost children. I went to school with crippled survivors. But even though I live in a community of old people at high risk from Covid, two years into this pandemic, I still don't personally know a single victim. However, I do have a neighbor who had a stroke the day after she got her Covid shot. I don't think that counts, though.

IF, IF, and IF, "nobody seems to know any actual victims personally" (of the Pandemic).......then, that monoclonal antibody treatment center at the Brownwood square MUST be vacant and gathering dust from NO patients.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

You must really like the latest Texas abortion law. Far less people using gasoline lawn mowers.

I DO NOT agree with the 1st sentence in your post. I do agree with the math (numbers) conclusion of your 2nd sentence. Tax laws and credits COULD HAVE BEEN (and were not) initiated in 1970 or earlier to achieve the conclusion of your 2nd sentence. Then, your 1st sentence could today be (as it should be) an individual woman's decision.

[Blueblaze]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

IF, IF, and IF, "nobody seems to know any actual victims personally" (of the Pandemic).......then, that monoclonal antibody treatment center at the Brownwood square MUST be vacant and gathering dust from NO patients.

There's a 99.6% difference between "patient" and "victim". Nobody ever said their aren't any patients -- I was one myself. I merely noted how strange it is that we're two years into this "deadly" pandemic, and most people don't know anybody it's killed.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Reported? By whom?

Try Bloomberg, September 23rd, 2021, author Nick Wadhams. It’s disturbing and aggravating and there are more articles. Perhaps if one did some online research many truths would be uncovered.

[Alana33]

Originally Posted by RICH1

I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

I'm 68.
I updated all my vaccinations last year.
Got vaccination for influenza and part 2 pneumonia, tetanus, diphtheria.
This year I received my covid shots and had to wait 60 days between my 1st shingles and 2nd vaccination and 2nd Covid. You can ask your doctor or pharmacist what you may require.

My Mom had shingles and it was extremely painful for her.
I grew up getting vaccinations.
So did most of us.
No vaccination, no going to school.
If you travel to different countries, certain vaccinations against disease are mandatory.
Many diseases have been eradicated and/or controlled thanks to science and preventative vaccines.

I'm far less concerned about "Afghans bringing measles and other diseases" than I am about Xenophobic American Antivaxxers who continue to spread ignorance, misinformation and this awful virus.

[Blueblaze]

Originally Posted by JSR22

Iknow dozens of people who had COVID including 6 on my street!

The definition of "victim" is YOU DIE. Did any of them die?

There's a 99.6% difference between "patient" and "victim". Practically everyone I know has, at a minimum, had a cold in the last two years, and most of them think it was probably Covid. My case actually tested positive for Covid.

The point is, we all know all these people who've had Covid, but almost nobody knows anyone who died.

That's pretty weird for a disease that caused us to crash our economy and quit educating our kids.

[Aces4]

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[Ken D.]

Originally Posted by blueash

My grandparents came to this country as unwashed immigrants, and the bigoted nativists even then screamed out that these dirty people were going to infect good Americans with diseases. Nothing has changed. The nativists are still using the same tropes and the same fear mongering against immigrants. We have had over 40 million immigrants alive in the US now, most entered outside the quota system.

Now tell me, how many infectious measles outbreaks have they caused, 40 million people. There was one in 2018 from a person from Ukraine. There was a large outbreak in an American born Orthodox Jewish NY community with a low vaccination rate and travel to Israel not immigrant related. Obviously this one could have been prevented by insisting on Americans being vaccinated before flying.

2017 an outbreak in US born Somalis in Minnesota, another vaccine refusing group.
2016 the only recent documented report in an immigrant group from the southern border.
There was a large outbreak in 2015 associated with visiting Disneyland in California. As the CDC reported:


The theme with measles is no different than that with Covid. While importation across our southern border is not zero, it is also not why we get outbreaks. Those who wish to blame our border policy lack evidence other than their confirmation bias layered on top of their nativist thinking.
And like Covid, get your shots as instructed by the experts at the CDC and you will overwhelmingly be protected.

What is the experience with measles in Texas, right at the epicenter of all those dirty unwashed illegals from countries with no shot requirement? The answer might be found on the Texas Department of health's website last updated March 2021

The key here is your grandparents entered this country “legally “ I’ll bet. Big difference!

[Alana33]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

The definition of "victim" is YOU DIE. Did any of them die?

There's a 99.6% difference between "patient" and "victim". Practically everyone I know has, at a minimum, had a cold in the last two years, and most of them think it was probably Covid. My case actually tested positive for Covid.

The point is, we all know all these people who've had Covid, but almost nobody knows anyone who died.

That's pretty weird for a disease that caused us to crash our economy and quit educating our kids.

Except for my dead sister and 640,000 plus people.
You should consider volunteering at an overwhelmed hospital. They need help.
2 other family members are now long haul covid survivors with serious health issues because they chose not to be vaccinated.

But, hey, have at it.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Wow!
I learn something every day!

Another fact that may interest you then, The Guardian, article by Kenan Malik about how Britian’s offer to the Afghan refugees is not that generous, August 22nd 2021 article. It appears England sent many refugees back telling them their country is stable.🤫

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Alana33

I'm 68.
I updated all my vaccinations last year.
Got vaccination for influenza and part 2 pneumonia, tetanus, diphtheria.
This year I received my covid shots and had to wait 60 days between my 1st shingles and 2nd vaccination and 2nd Covid. You can ask your doctor or pharmacist what you may require.

My Mom had shingles and it was extremely painful for her.
I grew up getting vaccinations.
So did most of us.
No vaccination, no going to school.
If you travel to different countries, certain vaccinations against disease are mandatory.
Many diseases have been eradicated and/or controlled thanks to science and preventative vaccines.

I'm far less concerned about "Afghans bringing measles and other diseases" than I am about Xenophobic American Antivaxxers who continue to spread ignorance, misinformation and this awful virus.

Preach on, sister. I'm with you 100% on this. This SHOULD be a no-brainer. No one should NEED to be coerced or manipulated into getting the vaccine. In fact, when the vaccine first came out, people were lining up BEGGING for their shot. The anti-vaxx movement is the only reason why there are still millions of people not vaccinated. They've convinced a lot of people - some who might otherwise be rather intelligent - that vaccines are bad for you. And the Covid-19 vaccines are just the latest bandwagon they're hopping on to push their agenda.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

The definition of "victim" is YOU DIE. Did any of them die?

There's a 99.6% difference between "patient" and "victim". Practically everyone I know has, at a minimum, had a cold in the last two years, and most of them think it was probably Covid. My case actually tested positive for Covid.

The point is, we all know all these people who've had Covid, but almost nobody knows anyone who died.

That's pretty weird for a disease that caused us to crash our economy and quit educating our kids.

One of my neighbors died.

My cousin's neighbor died.

The point is not that no one knows anyone who died. The point is that being a VICTIM does not equate, exclusively, with death. If you're hit by a hit-and-run driver and live to tell about it, you're still a victim of a hit-and-run driver. If you're shot by a bank robber and live to tell about it, you're still a victim of a shooting. If your house is burglarized, and you aren't even injured at all, you're still a victim of a burglary.

If you're raped, you're a victim of rape whether you live or die as a result.

My sister is a VICTIM of Covid. She lived to tell about it, but she was very sick for a couple of months. Because of a blood clotting disorder, she CANNOT be vaccinated. The risk of a blood clot forming and killing her (which is a rare side effect of the vaccines) is higher for her than for people who don't have this disorder. She has to get tested regularly to make sure she still has antibodies. If she's no longer immune as a result of getting COVID, she will have to isolate away from everyone else. The next time she gets sick from it, it could kill her.

So just keep your semantic horsepucky to yourself. Living people are victimized by things every day. And every day my sister was sick, was a day our entire family was victimized by Covid and the insensitive jerks who spread the disease because "muh freedumz" were more important than world health.