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Old 02-26-2020, 05:39 PM
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Heating and Air guy from Ohio for over 30 years this person nailed everything. 100% correct.
Aren't these details beside the point?

Isn't the expensive mess EPA has made of the AC biz based on the quack-science of "ozone depletion"?

And are these stupid regs a cash jackpot for the AC contracting biz?

If not, can you address ANY of the serious problems with "ozone depletion" mentioned above?

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Old 02-26-2020, 06:43 PM
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Got Air Conditioning? If you have an older AC unit (say, north of 466), you're ---'d
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:47 PM
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For the benefit of the AC consumer, please compare and contrast an R12 system with a 410a system.


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Old 02-27-2020, 03:46 PM
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For the benefit of the AC consumer, please compare and contrast an R12 system with a 410a system.


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R12 and R22 freon compared to 410 coolant. I have taken the licensing required for all three, personally, whether you're talking about ozone or re-designing of equipment follow the money. Newer equipment is far more expensive and the energy difference is nominal. I am not a scientist but as a technician the government took something cheap and made it expensive. I will add that in many countries around the world mostly in developing countries freon is still in use in new appliances.
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R12 and R22 freon compared to 410 coolant. I have taken the licensing required for all three, personally, whether you're talking about ozone or re-designing of equipment follow the money. Newer equipment is far more expensive and the energy difference is nominal. I am not a scientist but as a technician the government took something cheap and made it expensive. I will add that in many countries around the world mostly in developing countries freon is still in use in new appliances.
Can you elaborate on these costs with some actual numbers? I haven't really see a huge increase in the cost to replace a central AC system. And, it looks like the cost for the R410A refrigerant is only about 4 dollars per pound.
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