[graciegirl]

Yep. That Russ Boston knows. The number 1 heart hospital in the United States is in Cleveland, Ohio.

Ohio. Yep.

And the urban shabbyness that happens around such a huge, successful, sought after, highly used, facility happens a lot to other like facilities across the country.

Hope it doesn't happen here.

But...it is well worth that chance.

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Well stated LuvItHere!

I don't understand the confusion this topic seems to bring on. Nobody seems to question why the Hospital (TVRH) has over 700 volunteers. It is expected that not for profit centers (especially medical ones) need the help of the community to prosper. Since none of your money is going to this venture unless you donate then why all the concern? If it was announced that the Cleveland Clinic was opening a satellite hospital in TV and needed volunteers and benefactors, there would be nothing but praise for how our community was moving up in the world of health care. Why should a well respected cancer center be any different?

I still think the distrust that seems to be shown on this forum for Moffitt is a general mistrust of the Morse family. To me the Moffitt center addition is no more a part of Morse Inc. than was Wal-Mart (when we already had a Target) or Bonefish (when we already had Red Lobster) etc. Companies of all types realize the great potential in our huge older adult population. If you have a service you bring it to where the consumers are!

Well said Russ. I see the bottom line here as having choices and the fact that I don't have to drive a good distance for treatment if my cancer ever surfaces again. It is all about choice.

[Cliff]

I know I will be accused of "Morse bashing" for saying this, but, nobody seems go have mentioned it yet. If you have been here as long as I have, you probably remember when the building of the Villages Hospital was proposed. Morse said we need it and that Villagers should pay to have it built. Otherwise, it would never be built. Many of us said "What The Hey??????" Meetings were held, Morse and many medical dignitaries came to backup the idea of we, the residents, paying for the hospital. There was a lot of arguments against the suggestion, and, eventually, and magically, money appeared and the hospital was built. Here we go again......

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by Cliff

I know I will be accused of "Morse bashing" for saying this, but, nobody seems go have mentioned it yet. If you have been here as long as I have, you probably remember when the building of the Villages Hospital was proposed. Morse said we need it and that Villagers should pay to have it built. Otherwise, it would never be built. Many of us said "What The Hey??????" Meetings were held, Morse and many medical dignitaries came to backup the idea of we, the residents, paying for the hospital. There was a lot of arguments against the suggestion, and, eventually, and magically, money appeared and the hospital was built. Here we go again......

See your point Cliff but this time it is by donation only. And anyone can give, not just the residents of TV. To my knowledge ALL non for profit hospitals and health centers take donations and volunteerism to make them work. Look up and down the corridors of almost any hospital in Boston (I have seen most of them) and you will see their wall of fame with all of the benefactors listed. Usually entire wings are built with donations from wealthy contributors.

If we were being taxed in some way to make this happen then I can see everyone's point. But we are not. I think it is that simple. Am I wrong? Somebody please argue that point.

[whartonjelly]

It seems to me that the right to choose your own healthcare is the most important thing mentioned.

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by LuvItHere

Many people decry physician-owned, for-profit hospitals and clinics like the one in the ad, because of where the profits go (into investors' personal income). Non-profit centers like Moffitt reinvest "profits" back into the clinical services/facilities offered.
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the profits plowed back in are usually post-salary and BONUS both of which can be any number ($) the corp's board allows, the 'plow back' is not necessarily a big number after these and other staff expenses.....just saying there is not any implied morality or lack thereof in either scenario. I just think it a little 'cheesy' (no offense Wisc. fans) to ask for donations to equip the Moffitt Center when you are truly donating to the Villages Health system which will own the equipment NOT Moffitt, if they vacate they leave without the equipment....just say it the way it is. It smelled of deception, it actually should be seen as a benefit...the Villages will still have a cancer treatment center that could be marketed to another large group. Come on, enough of you out there saw this kind of maneuver out in the business world. I think there is one question on the center website that says the equipment will remain with the Villages because it will BELONG to the Villages Health....

[Carla B]

The fact that Moffitt is the only designated comprehensive cancer center in Florida shouldn't diminish the fact that there are other excellent cancer treatment facilities in the state. For instance, a check of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Orlando lists over 50 physicians on staff across many cancer specialties.

M.D. Anderson Houston is ranked the #1 cancer hospital for 2010-2011 by U.S. News & World Report. The Orlando facility is linked by telemedicine to Houston for complex cases. I imagine that telemedicine will also play a big part in Moffitt's operation in TV and Leesburg.

[skip0358]

How often do you go to the mail box and get a bunch of junk mail asking for donations? What do you do with most,it goes in the circular file. If you don't want to DONATE DON'T., But on the other side don't beat the crap out of someone asking for a top notch cancer center in your back yard. If you feel it's worth while Thank You For Your Support. If not take this as another request and throw it in the trash. Butr emember if you need the facility someone else helped you out. I think that's what TV is al aboiut. JMHO.

[Reelimpatient]

"LuvItHere; Having the same calibre of oncology radiation equipment does not put a local, private radiation oncologist practice in the same league as an NCI-designated, not-for-profit Comprehensive Cancer Center like Moffitt"

Don't believe this crap! being in the same league as you call it, has nothing to do with the experience, level of care and the ethical quality care of patients. Don't be mislead by the term "not for profit" its an elaborate term for "we use to funds however we want and then don't show a profit at the end of the year"

A lot of us here in the villages are retired CEO's CFO's etc, don't try to pull that over on us cause "we ain't buying it ! "

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by Reelimpatient

"LuvItHere; Having the same calibre of oncology radiation equipment does not put a local, private radiation oncologist practice in the same league as an NCI-designated, not-for-profit Comprehensive Cancer Center like Moffitt"

Don't believe this crap! being in the same league as you call it, has nothing to do with the experience, level of care and the ethical quality care of patients. Don't be mislead by the term "not for profit" its an elaborate term for "we use to funds however we want and then don't show a profit at the end of the year"

A lot of us here in the villages are retired CEO's CFO's etc, don't try to pull that over on us cause "we ain't buying it ! "

Please just answer: 'why do you care'? None of your money is going towards this. Did you try to stop WalMart when they built?

I just don't get it. What is the probelm in your eyes, Mr. CEO/CFO? I like to be educated. Teach us please.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Please just answer: 'why do you care'? None of your money is going towards this. Did you try to stop WalMart when they built?

I just don't get it. What is the probelm in your eyes, Mr. CEO/CFO? I like to be educated. Teach us please.

Russ. Remember your manners! You forgot to welcome him.

This is your first post Reelimpatient. Hope you enjoy this forum and find something that you like here.

[jbmatis]

I have had radiation treatment for breast cancer at the Robert Boissoneault Oncology Institute. My experience was wonderful and I would highly recommend them. The staff and doctors are extremely caring and competent.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Russ. Remember your manners! You forgot to welcome him.

This is your first post Reelimpatient. Hope you enjoy this forum and find something that you like here.

Yes thank you for the reminder Gracie!

Welcome. Please post more.

But for the love of god let's deal with the subject matter and not about who's making money from a cancer center that will (hopefully) be a new jewel in an ever expanding health center here in TV.


Listen, everyone on this board knows that my concern is about quality content on TOTV. I'll listen to any side of the argument and many, many times I've said 'Oh, my bad!'.

But this cancer center debate (I think this is the third separate thread on the subject) just completely baffles me. Again I ask anyone who is against any piece of this plan to please explain the downside? I've listened to everyone and I don't see where a downside could come from. I've been a little rude lately in my posts on the subject but from someone like me who works in the health field, I just don't get it.

[mmfan]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Yes thank you for the reminder Gracie!

Welcome. Please post more.

But for the love of god let's deal with the subject matter and not about who's making money from a cancer center that will (hopefully) be a new jewel in an ever expanding health center here in TV.


Listen, everyone on this board knows that my concern is about quality content on TOTV. I'll listen to any side of the argument and many, many times I've said 'Oh, my bad!'.

But this cancer center debate (I think this is the third separate thread on the subject) just completely baffles me. Again I ask anyone who is against any piece of this plan to please explain the downside? I've listened to everyone and I don't see where a downside could come from. I've been a little rude lately in my posts on the subject but from someone like me who works in the health field, I just don't get it.

This thread was started because of an ad in the paper placed by this Boissoneault center. There is no question that the Moffitt Cancer center is a prestigious institution and as Luvit said it is a comprehensive cancer center with oncologists, surgeons pathologists, etc reviewing cases and seeing patients.

The downside to the proposed Moffitt Cancer Center in the villages is that it doesn't appear that it will have all that. They only keep referring to the radiation equipment and the newspaper said the other day we would get a radiation doctor a physicist and somebody else but that the local medical oncologists would stay.

I don't have a problem if we get a mini Moffitt Cancer center in the villages with all the specialties, but if we are only getting a radiation doctor with his or her support staff then that's not what everyone here is being led to believe that they are donating for.

[marywil]

Why are we being asked to donate equipment funds to a for-profit company? Do we then get a discount on charges for care? I doubt that. Seems like a giant snow job on us.