[Russ_Boston]

I think the point that you miss ajakk is that the care is coordinated between CFHA and Moffitt. If you read the POA Q&A you'll have a better understanding of the medical relationship.

Ajakk, can you explain to me, in your words what is really ailing you about this plan? Personally I don't see how more cancer care, regardless of the exact specifics, is bad.

[ajakk]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

I think the point that you miss ajakk is that the care is coordinated between CFHA and Moffitt. If you read the POA Q&A you'll have a better understanding of the medical relationship.

Ajakk, can you explain to me, in your words what is really ailing you about this plan? Personally I don't see how more cancer care, regardless of the exact specifics, is bad.

Russ, I have never said I was against the Moffitt affiliate in TV. What I have always tried to get across is the means used to get donations. We were told it would take donations to get the affiliate here, it won't. We were told the developer donated the land and building, he didn't. Daily Sun bombards us repeatedly with heart-wrenching stories meant to play on the goodness of Villagers. They also stated a cancer patient went to Tampa for cancer treatment, she didn't it was Shands. All this misrepresentation to play on our hearts knowing the sympathy card could not be played with a full disclosure. I also resent being asked to help open a business to compete with an already-established one who paid their own way to be able to serve us here in TV. Against Moffitt no, against Villagers being taken advantage of, yes.

[Russ_Boston]

OK I get it. It one of those "it's not what they did but how they did it things". Then you won't contribute - you have that right.

[billethkid]

As an aside, what we all know for sure is, unfortunately, there will be more cancer patients than facilities and treatment capabilities.
One more, happens to have a well known name is just fine. What is not fine is the conflicting communications to date. That is not going to change.
The good old fashioned judgement and decisions that got most of us to this stage of life will ultimately prevail.

btk

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

OK I get it. It one of those "it's not what they did but how they did it things".

That's about it, Russ. There are those here who feel they were not up front with us. The Developer took us for granted by "volunteering us" to pick up the tab for the big bucks equipment. We were led to believe he was donating the land and building. The bottom line is, it was very badly handled from a PR angle.

RBOI didn't help matters with their ad blitz.

I am not sure of the extent of dissatisfaction outside this forum. It is not a subject of conversation in any group I am familiar with. (Of which I am familiar?)

I think the POA is doing a good job keeping us informed.

[barb1191]

I feel since Moffit is hooking up with Leesburg Hospital and Leesburg is a short distance from TV, thats a big plus for TV thus this plan of the developer requesting/demanding donations is superfluous, as well as pure greed since he is putting $0 out and making big bucks to boot on your money. And even worse, the gaul to outright lie to ask/demand for donations to fill his coffers! Yes "demand" as was proven when he kicked out of TV the AMCS Relay for Life because they chose not to allow the developer to take half of the profits for his plans. Call that donating? Certainly NOT. Call it abominable.

Some write those who have suffered the strains of the big C will know the importance of this wonderful gesture of the developer. I've had cancer and never in remission for six yrs now and I do not share that commentary. What a waste of money that could serve so many other needy causes!

Yes, stick with the POA to get the "real deal." They are truly ethical, loyal, honest, and dedicated to look out for the best interest of the residents of TV. They have a proven track record.

[Larry Wilson]

Originally Posted by barb1191

I feel since Moffit is hooking up with Leesburg Hospital and Leesburg is a short distance from TV, thats a big plus for TV thus this plan of the developer requesting/demanding donations is superfluous, as well as pure greed since he is putting $0 out and making big bucks to boot on your money. And even worse, the gaul to outright lie to ask/demand for donations to fill his coffers! Yes "demand" as was proven when he kicked out of TV the AMCS Relay for Life because they chose not to allow the developer to take half of the profits for his plans. Call that donating? Certainly NOT. Call it abominable.

Some write those who have suffered the strains of the big C will know the importance of this wonderful gesture of the developer. I've had cancer and never in remission for six yrs now and I do not share that commentary. What a waste of money that could serve so many other needy cau

I so agree Barb. Sorry didn't mean to cut off your quote. You seem like a very wise woman.

[graciegirl]

I do not see what the developer would get out of it.

A tenant for his hospital building?

Since there is no need to glamorize or accessorize or add anything to this place to get people to want to live here, and since The Villages are probably 3/4's finished, than using it as a draw for sales doesn't seem to be the answer.


Granted, not having the Relay for Life at the high school, after having it here for many years was really bad manners to me. The Relay for Life is a genuinely good thing and it is wonderful to raise the spirit of those currently battling cancer and to celebrate those who have survived, and to remember those we have lost. It is a fundraiser for the American Cancer Society and a good one.

If I could only donate to ONE, would I choose the Relay for Life, A multi-discipline Cancer Hospital or Cancer Research? I think that is a personal choice but I resent having the choice of Relay for Life taken from me.

I still can't see what the developer would gain, having Moffit on the grounds.

[Taj44]

Originally Posted by ajakk

Russ, I have never said I was against the Moffitt affiliate in TV. What I have always tried to get across is the means used to get donations. We were told it would take donations to get the affiliate here, it won't. We were told the developer donated the land and building, he didn't. Daily Sun bombards us repeatedly with heart-wrenching stories meant to play on the goodness of Villagers. They also stated a cancer patient went to Tampa for cancer treatment, she didn't it was Shands. All this misrepresentation to play on our hearts knowing the sympathy card could not be played with a full disclosure. I also resent being asked to help open a business to compete with an already-established one who paid their own way to be able to serve us here in TV. Against Moffitt no, against Villagers being taken advantage of, yes.

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Very nicely stated, AJ. We're not againt apple pie, Mom, and cancer treatment, just don't like being duped.

[ajakk]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I do not see what the developer would get out of it.

This article in the Orlando Sentinel might shed some light on what is involved here.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...4248287.column

[saratogaman]

Originally Posted by downeaster

That's about it, Russ. There are those here who feel they were not up front with us. The Developer took us for granted by "volunteering us" to pick up the tab for the big bucks equipment. We were led to believe he was donating the land and building. The bottom line is, it was very badly handled from a PR angle.

RBOI didn't help matters with their ad blitz.

I am not sure of the extent of dissatisfaction outside this forum. It is not a subject of conversation in any group I am familiar with. (Of which I am familiar?)

I think the POA is doing a good job keeping us informed.

It's topic of wide interest in my neighborhood...!

[Russ_Boston]

I would think that just moving the event wouldn't stop most people who supported it from attending. That would be kind of shallow don't you think?

I don't really understand why it was moved. My logic above also would make you think that there is room enough for both fund raisers.

I do know that fund raising can be a dog eat dog kind of thing. Sad.

[mrdills]

I personally think the Morris family is showing its true colors, its all about the money., very sad

[bimmertl]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

I would think that just moving the event wouldn't stop most people who supported it from attending. That would be kind of shallow don't you think?

I don't really understand why it was moved. My logic above also would make you think that there is room enough for both fund raisers.

I do know that fund raising can be a dog eat dog kind of thing. Sad.

Let's see, Relay for Life was denied use of last years site, so it couldn't be held there, so it had to be moved elsewhere. Hope that helps you understand.

Nice of you to call prior years participants "shallow" if they fail to participate in a much smaller venue offering limited amenities.

If I recall correctly, Russ plans on working for the Villages Hospital when he moves to the Villages. His pandering to the Morse fund raiser seems to be nothing more than padding his resume so all the Morse minions who monitor this site remember him when he shows up hat in hand at their doorstep looking for work.

[Whalen]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

1. I would think that just moving the event wouldn't stop most people who supported it from attending. That would be kind of shallow don't you think?

2. I don't really understand why it was moved. My logic above also would make you think that there is room enough for both fund raisers.

I do know that fund raising can be a dog eat dog kind of thing. Sad.

1. What would they attend? Please explain how an event of this magnitude can be relocated to a new venue in just less than 6 months?

2. You'll have to ask the developer this question.
Technically it wasn't moved, the developer told the organizers that the annual Relay event would not be allowed to take place on Village property.

3. That doesn't excuse the behavior.