[Number 6]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

In that case, it goes back to the question--exclusively for use by Moffitt?, and is Moffitt non-profit? Every imaging procedure has two separate billing components---a professional fee (physician interpretation) and a technical fee, which is meant to help pay for the equipment. IF, IF, IF it was something only Moffitt would use, and IF, IF,IF Moffitt is for profit, then I would view it as double dipping

My understanding is that Moffitt was only billing the Professional Component as some part of TVH owned the equipment and building (and employed the techs, etc.). The Technical Component is still pretty profitable, especially if you do not have to fund the equipment purchase. How do you suppose Cancer Treatment Centers of America can afford a national ad campaign? Or the for profit cancer care chains.

[trichard]

I would point out that united healthcare Medicare advantage plan dropped Moffit from its provider list and replaced with another group. The referrals from the villages health will then dry up.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Number 6

My understanding is that Moffitt was only billing the Professional Component as some part of TVH owned the equipment and building (and employed the techs, etc.). The Technical Component is still pretty profitable, especially if you do not have to fund the equipment purchase. How do you suppose Cancer Treatment Centers of America can afford a national ad campaign? Or the for profit cancer care chains.

N6 - I was with you until your last two sentences. As for profit organizations, CTCA and other for profits typically purchase equipment from funds resulting from operations. Another route is by selling stock on the markets, or selling bonds. They do not have foundations supporting the purchase of equipment.

[NYGUY]

This is from Wikipedia:

H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute is a nonprofit cancer treatment and research center located in Tampa, Florida. Established in 1981 by the Florida Legislature, the hospital opened in October 1986, on the University of South Florida campus.[1] Moffitt is the only National Cancer Institute-designated Comprehensive Cancer Center based in Florida.[2]

Here is a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Lee...arch_Institute

It is probably just as well known as any of the other National Cancer Institute designated centers are known outside of their geographical areas.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by NYGUY

This is from Wikipedia:

It is probably just as well known as any of the other National Cancer Institute designated centers are known outside of their geographical areas.

I would venture to say Sloan-Kettering, Dana Farber, MD Anderson, Mayo Clinic and St. Jude's Children's are far more well known outside their geographic areas than Moffitt

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I would venture to say Sloan-Kettering, Dana Farber, MD Anderson, Mayo Clinic and St. Jude's Children's are far more well known outside their geographic areas than Moffitt

Interestingly when I lived out west, I learned that few out there knew about Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. Reputation, except for a few exceptions, seems to be regional.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Interestingly when I lived out west, I learned that few out there knew about Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. Reputation, except for a few exceptions, seems to be regional.

Doesn't matter. Let's just be happy we have a first class cancer center within 100 miles.

[Number 6]

Originally Posted by dbussone

N6 - I was with you until your last two sentences. As for profit organizations, CTCA and other for profits typically purchase equipment from funds resulting from operations. Another route is by selling stock on the markets, or selling bonds. They do not have foundations supporting the purchase of equipment.

I was just pointing out that cancer care is still a very profitable business, especially radiation oncology. It just seemed strange to me that the residents were supposed to pay for the equipment up front. Well, that was an argument for anther day.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Number 6

I was just pointing out that cancer care is still a very profitable business, especially radiation oncology. It just seemed strange to me that the residents were supposed to pay for the equipment up front. Well, that was an argument for anther day.

We agree. Regarding the equipment, it is fairly common for not-for-profit hospitals to try and raise charitable contributions for any number of purposes. So that did not surprise me.

[Number 6]

Originally Posted by dbussone

We agree. Regarding the equipment, it is fairly common for not-for-profit hospitals to try and raise charitable contributions for any number of purposes. So that did not surprise me.

Thinking back to that time, what bothered me was we were not "asked to", but were "expected to" donate.

[circletrack]

Originally Posted by Number 6

Thinking back to that time, what bothered me was we were not "asked to", but were "expected to" donate.

Seems a little extreme. I don't think anyone was ever obligated to donate to anything. If everyone here was expected to donate, we'd probably have a world class cancer treatment and research facility.

The only thing I remember being an issue was the Moffitt fundraiser vs. Relay for Life fundraising.

[Buffalo Jim]

Originally Posted by bimmertl

And all the donors who use it will be billed for their use.

What a great business plan! If I can get a bunch of suckers to contribute to something like that money making possibilities are unlimited!

How much did you actually donate that you are so offended ?

I donated and I am not the least offended .

Do you really believe that this was some type of scheme to collect donations for equipment ?
If so that`s just amazing .

[DrThunder]

Lauren Ritchie: Central Florida Health Alliance sold linear accelerator donated by Villagers to for-profit cancer company - Orlando Sentinel

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by DrThunder

Lauren Ritchie: Central Florida Health Alliance sold linear accelerator donated by Villagers to for-profit cancer company - Orlando Sentinel

Look up Lauren Ritchie under search above.


I don't think she is a huge fan of The Villages.


Here is one thread with a mention of her.




Lauren Ritchie's Sunday Article

[graciegirl]

Dr. Thunder, your link opened elsewhere. I think this is what you were referencing.




Lauren Ritchie: Central Florida Health Alliance sold linear accelerator donated by Villagers to for-profit cancer company - Orlando Sentinel


I just can't get to like her style of writing.