[Annie66]

I got bored trying to read 121 posts so I'll just jump into this as if I was the first to answer. There is technology out there that would allow installing card readers without having to lay miles of cables. TVs could sell the cards (I doubt TVs would give them away) for a small price that would open the gate to pools, pickle ball courts, tennis courts, rec centers, etc. The purchaser would have to be verified through their green or blue Villager cards. It should have a picture to verify the identity along with an expiration date that requires re-certification of identity maybe every 2 years. Sounds like a PITA but it would eliminate most of the abuse people are concerned about. Maybe it reduce some of the personnel overhead we pay for through our amenity fees.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimkerr

We already have Park & Recreation as well as Community watch employees that should be doing this but they don't. There is no need to hire even more people. Even if they did check, people know all they have to do at a pool is jump in and they don't check ID's.

Then the first rule when they come to check IDs should be "everybody out of the pool"!!!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

I bet cash money the homeless guy locking himself in the bathroom for over an hour is actually in there curled up on the floor after shooting himself up with heroin.

And another poster stated he called community watch and "there is nothing they can do"???? There is plenty to do starting with calling the police for a trespasser.

[Tvflguy]

As a TV owner and amenity fee payer, this is quite disturbing. And no doubt will continue to worsen as more non TV folks move into nearby new construction (esp apartment folks). Young families et al taking advantage of what seems to be easy pickins to go into
TV and facilities. And the word spreads. And gets worse.
No easy answers… other than Drone surveillance and drop water balloons on the non TVrs.

[AMB444]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Then the first rule when they come to check IDs should be "everybody out of the pool"!!!

Absolutely!

And if you don't want to get out of the pool keep your ID handy and next to edge of pool (or on a chair out so can be readily seen) so it can be scanned. It's not rocket science. My goodness.

Those of us at the pools will figure out how to get scanned while in the pool as we'd like all to get an ID scan. In the pool, or out.

[FloridaGuy66]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Any statistics to support that assertion?????
Personally, I have no idea how common or rare it is. How is it that assertion can be made?

I am a frequent user of three different pools, several pickleball locations and several rec centers for over three years.

I have not once saw any person from outside of TV using our recreational facilities. I have discussed this with MANY other people all over TV and have not heard of any first hand accounts of this happening.

If this was a common problem, then I would expect to have at least heard about it happening once or twice. Certainly doesn't seem like something we should be spending extra money on.

[FloridaGuy66]

Originally Posted by rickaslin

Maybe a way to help off set the cost would be to charge say $3 per day for guest passes.

How about NO.

I bought here to live in a community, not a daily fee resort for outsiders.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Then the first rule when they come to check IDs should be "everybody out of the pool"!!!

My response would be that I’ll be happy to show you my ID from the pool, since my backpack containing my ID is always at the end of the lane I’m swimming laps in. Once you get out of the pool, your lane is fair game.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

I am a frequent user of three different pools, several pickleball locations and several rec centers for over three years.

I have not once saw any person from outside of TV using our recreational facilities. I have discussed this with MANY other people all over TV and have not heard of any first hand accounts of this happening.

If this was a common problem, then I would expect to have at least heard about it happening once or twice. Certainly doesn't seem like something we should be spending extra money on.

You’ve had a unique experience. This is a common problem in the snowbird season particularly.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

I am a frequent user of three different pools, several pickleball locations and several rec centers for over three years.

I have not once saw any person from outside of TV using our recreational facilities. I have discussed this with MANY other people all over TV and have not heard of any first hand accounts of this happening.

If this was a common problem, then I would expect to have at least heard about it happening once or twice. Certainly doesn't seem like something we should be spending extra money on.

That is well said and I so agree. Before we got a pool I used our local pools and not once saw anyone who infringed. Once, I think someone came several times to the art room from outside The Villages. That stopped and now we are asked to show our cards frequently. Helene and I really stand out. I know they know I belong. Every once in a while I will forget to throw my card into my wheeled cart that carries all the stuff I need to make art and that is the very day I will be scanned. I got a letter for missing three times a couple of years ago and I cannot tell you how upset that made me. I never ever get in trouble anywhere. I don't think anyone is getting away with stuff........I just don't. I don't mind they check...I just think I am entitled I guess at the age of 84 and after going to Laurel Manor three times a week for fourteen years.

[AMB444]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

I have not once saw any person from outside of TV using our recreational facilities. I have discussed this with MANY other people all over TV and have not heard of any first hand accounts of this happening.

Thank you for your response.

You have not once "saw" anyone. Did you ask for their TV ID? What is your proof here that all you "saw" were TV residents?

What's "first hand accounts". "MANY other people all over TV"? Have you been taking a poll of sorts for this situation? They asked for ID's? Doubtful.

[FloridaGuy66]

Originally Posted by AMB444

Thank you for your response.

You have not once "saw" anyone. Did you ask for their TV ID? What is your proof here that all you "saw" were TV residents?

In the Villages that I spend most of my time in, ID's are checked often enough. I'd say a little over every 90 minutes on average. Everytime when I had witnessed people had "forgot" their cards there was always at least someone with a card to legitimately vouch for them.

[AMB444]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

ID's are checked often enough. I'd say a little over every 90 minutes on average.

I swim at 6 different pools in TV that are near me. Probably go 4 times per week. I've only seen IDs checked maybe once every other week.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

I am a frequent user of three different pools, several pickleball locations and several rec centers for over three years.

I have not once saw any person from outside of TV using our recreational facilities. I have discussed this with MANY other people all over TV and have not heard of any first hand accounts of this happening.

If this was a common problem, then I would expect to have at least heard about it happening once or twice. Certainly doesn't seem like something we should be spending extra money on.

So, in other words, that assertion was anecdotal and lacked any statistical significance whatsoever. OK, got it.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

In the Villages that I spend most of my time in, ID's are checked often enough. I'd say a little over every 90 minutes on average. Everytime when I had witnessed people had "forgot" their cards there was always at least someone with a card to legitimately vouch for them.

Originally Posted by AMB444

I swim at 6 different pools in TV that are near me. Probably go 4 times per week. I've only seen IDs checked maybe once every other week.

Now there's a couple of opposites from frequent users of the pools.