[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If someone is in the pool and has removed their “I don’t live here” t-shirt then how do you know they are non-residents? When you learned that they were non-residents, did you get on the phone and alert the staff?

It’s far too easy to “know” something in these posts while having absolutely no knowledge in real life.

See # 148

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

See # 148

Yes, and after learning this what did you do to remedy the situation? (A fistfight is the wrong answer, recounting a story on ToTV is ineffective)

My area must be very sheltered, there have been a few subjects of major concern that I have not experienced in the areas of the Villages that I frequent.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

While it pains me to state it, we totally agree on this issue. I would also suggest that it needs to be extended to short term rentals as well, especially Airbnbs

I totally agree with your "extensions ".
See, I told you, I'm not a complete idiot. 😃😃😃

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Yes, and after learning this what did you do to remedy the situation? (A fistfight is the wrong answer, recounting a story on ToTV is ineffective)

My area must be very sheltered, there have been a few subjects of major concern that I have not experienced in the areas of the Villages that I frequent.

Notified the appropriate oversite individual. What they did is unknown to me.

Lucky you. Being sheltered can be nice.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I totally agree with your "extensions ".
See, I told you, I'm not a complete idiot. 😃😃😃

Never thought that. A bit misguided perhaps, but there's always hope of finally seeing the light

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Slip of the tongue or out right admissions, mostly. At least that has been my experience.

You must not live in the right village. Any possibility of admission of not being a resident, a phone call would be immediate by no less than 3-4 residents. Our last four neighborhoods were so territorial, they would bash a resident from different neighborhood. We found it so comical the first time we went to the pool, we would routinely say “I don’t live in this village, but like the location of pool to sun ratio.

Just for S**t & Giggles, sometimes my comment “yeh finished cleaning a house, and wanted to cool off, before the next job” since we never frequented the same neighborhood pools, kept things interesting. One CW guy would laugh when the old ones would loudly say they don’t belong here they are too young. Make them leave. we were friends with a few of CW’s, alway smiled “you make my job interesting”.

So maybe a resident with a warp sense of humor, just trying to stir up some fun

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If someone is in the pool and has removed their “I don’t live here” t-shirt then how do you know they are non-residents? When you learned that they were non-residents, did you get on the phone and alert the staff?

It’s far too easy to “know” something in these posts while having absolutely no knowledge in real life.

The “monitors” do not check everybody at the pool for ID’s. Those without ID’s know that those in the pool are not checked for ID’S. I have personally seen people who forgot their ID actually get in the pool when they see the Monitor coming - sort of funny, huh. Apparently Monitors are told by their supervisor not to make people get out of the pool to show their ID’S.

I get it, maybe the non-resident might buy a house someday. Just saying. I don’t think our pools are over run by non-residents illegally using our pools we pay to use. At least, not that I’ve seen and it could be that residents sometimes forget to get their guests passes or just are too busy (lazy maybe). Fore.

[Lottoguy]

TV could install a card reader at the gate that will unlock once the ID card is approved. The gate would need to be locked all the time.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by justjim

The “monitors” do not check everybody at the pool for ID’s. Those without ID’s know that those in the pool are not checked for ID’S. I have personally seen people who forgot their ID actually get in the pool when they see the Monitor coming - sort of funny, huh. Apparently Monitors are told by their supervisor not to make people get out of the pool to show their ID’S.

I get it, maybe the non-resident might buy a house someday. Just saying. I don’t think our pools are over run by non-residents illegally using our pools we pay to use. At least, not that I’ve seen and it could be that residents sometimes forget to get their guests passes or just are too busy (lazy maybe). Fore.

I agree. My point was that many of those complaining about the pools being overrun have absolutely no idea who is a resident/guest and who is not. I have no doubt that there are violators out there. I would love a workable idea for how to stop them. I haven’t seen anything yet that would cost less than $5M.

I could get behind being asked to get out of the pool to show IDs. It would be annoying and an inconvenience but I think it would be okay with me. If that is enough to solve the problem or quiet the online complaints then let’s do it.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

For those of you who find it difficult, inconvenient, impossible, or distasteful to get out of the pool to show your ID - perhaps you could consider affixing your ID to a little clamp that you can attach to your swimsuit. My swimsuit bottom (I wear a two-piece) has a key pocket that's just big enough for a key and a single ID card. If I'm in the pool and someone wants to check my ID it's right there, no need to get out of the pool at all. I don't bother though, because I'm fine with getting out of the pool to show my ID.

Plus, that swimsuit bottom has a velvet purse in addition the pocket. Most of those purses can fit a can of soda if they wanted to do so.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by thelegges

You must not live in the right village. Any possibility of admission of not being a resident, a phone call would be immediate by no less than 3-4 residents. Our last four neighborhoods were so territorial, they would bash a resident from different neighborhood. We found it so comical the first time we went to the pool, we would routinely say “I don’t live in this village, but like the location of pool to sun ratio.

Just for S**t & Giggles, sometimes my comment “yeh finished cleaning a house, and wanted to cool off, before the next job” since we never frequented the same neighborhood pools, kept things interesting. One CW guy would laugh when the old ones would loudly say they don’t belong here they are too young. Make them leave. we were friends with a few of CW’s, alway smiled “you make my job interesting”.

So maybe a resident with a warp sense of humor, just trying to stir up some fun

I've never been at a public pool in the 11 years I've been here, but God help the person that would attempt to "bash" me.

[dougjb]

Gosh, the last time I was at my neighborhood pool, there were over a hundred non residents on the pool deck. When the pools and rec person came by, they all jumped in the pool causing a tidal wave.

I know this for a fact!

Geesh, most people at pool side, at best, know a few of their neighbors. Most people would not be able to detect a non-resident if their life depended on it. Of course, in The Villages, we always accept the word of a person who says they "KNOW" that other pool attendees were non-residents. What total hogwash!!!

[BillyGrown]

Once in a great while we have Middleton residents using our pool. We have never reported it because they are respectful and don’t cause problems.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

While it pains me to state it, we totally agree on this issue. I would also suggest that it needs to be extended to short term rentals as well, especially Airbnbs

Unfortunately, because of Lifestyle Visits and the Villages company's rental division, you can't forbid short-term renters having passes.

However maybe the rules of the pools and amenities can be changed so that ONLY short-term renters who rent through the Villages holding llc can get those passes, and any other short-term renters must have an actual resident (snowbird or full time) accompanying them to any amenities.

The Villages Property Management does a pretty good job of vetting tenants for short-term stays, and maintaining the properties that it manages.

Another option would be to make it so that the only people who can rent short-term and get guest passes, are people renting in properties that are managed by an actual licensed property management company (not just the Villages PM). Airbnb tenants, or tenants of individuals who don't go through websites to rent - can't get guest passes unless they are IN the residence when their guests are there.

If they get caught letting guests use amenities when the resident is not in the community at the time, then they lose their right to having any guest passes for the next year. If they get caught doing it again, they lose their right to have any guest passes at all.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Unfortunately, because of Lifestyle Visits and the Villages company's rental division, you can't forbid short-term renters having passes.

However maybe the rules of the pools and amenities can be changed so that ONLY short-term renters who rent through the Villages holding llc can get those passes, and any other short-term renters must have an actual resident (snowbird or full time) accompanying them to any amenities.

The Villages Property Management does a pretty good job of vetting tenants for short-term stays, and maintaining the properties that it manages.

Another option would be to make it so that the only people who can rent short-term and get guest passes, are people renting in properties that are managed by an actual licensed property management company (not just the Villages PM). Airbnb tenants, or tenants of individuals who don't go through websites to rent - can't get guest passes unless they are IN the residence when their guests are there.

If they get caught letting guests use amenities when the resident is not in the community at the time, then they lose their right to having any guest passes for the next year. If they get caught doing it again, they lose their right to have any guest passes at all.

Guests stay with the homeowner for free, tenants pay rent. Guest passes are for guests, not short term tenants (business customers). Short term tenants should not be allowed to have guest passes at all since they are not guests. Long term tenants (those renting for a month or longer), can get resident passes for a $50 fee if the homeowner renting to them turns in their resident ID.