[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by asianthree

The tread is mostly about how to identify a Registered Guest, or trespasser.

As far as tracking you Resident ID is a tracker with a bar code required at all events within TV

Instead of having a guest ID, a waterproof band could be printed for the same amount of money, requiring all guests to wear them while on property, for duration of stay.
So, even if they jumped in the pool, they would easily be identified. At this time no Guest ID is scanned, So Guest ID band would be a Cheap alternative to find any trespassers especially in the pool.

As far as Resident IDs, band would be a pain, and could Clash with Pickleball or golf outfit,.

However, an app to have your resident ID on your phone or device with not only be inexpensive but convenient.

Kets face it how many people do you know that doesn’t carry a phone.

I doubt a waterproof band could be printed at the cost of 1/2 a sheet of paper (Guest IDs are printed two to a page). Besides that, my guests typically come for anywhere from a week to a month; will they be required to wear their waterproof band all 30 days?

[Arlington2]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I doubt a waterproof band could be printed at the cost of 1/2 a sheet of paper (Guest IDs are printed two to a page). Besides that, my guests typically come for anywhere from a week to a month; will they be required to wear their waterproof band all 30 days?

Yes. That is standard procedure at previous developments I have lived in and pretty much the norm at resorts.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Arlington2

Yes. That is standard procedure at previous developments I have lived in and pretty much the norm at resorts.

It is standard procedure to require wearing a non-removable band for the duration of a 30-day stay? No thank you.

[Arlington2]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

It is standard procedure to require wearing a non-removable band for the duration of a 30-day stay? No thank you.

You're stretching things. Used while using amenities.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Arlington2

You're stretching things. Used while using amenities.

Not stretching things at all, simply thinking them through.

If the band is removable then it is no different than the card we have today. Perhaps worse since if the band does not have some identifying information then it could be given to someone else. If the band is not removable then 30-day guests would need to wear it the entire time.

Scale matters. On the one hand you have a "previous development" or a resort with a couple hundred guests and one or two pools. Here you have 34 square miles, 100+ pools, dozens of rec centers, hundreds of outdoor courts (pickleball, shuffleboard, bocce, etc), and over 1,000 new guest passes distributed each day.

[Arlington2]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Not stretching things at all, simply thinking them through.

If the band is removable then it is no different than the card we have today. Perhaps worse since if the band does not have some identifying information then it could be given to someone else. If the band is not removable then 30-day guests would need to wear it the entire time.

Scale matters. On the one hand you have a "previous development" or a resort with a couple hundred guests and one or two pools. Here you have 34 square miles, 100+ pools, dozens of rec centers, hundreds of outdoor courts (pickleball, shuffleboard, bocce, etc), and over 1,000 new guest passes distributed each day.

John Rohan, is that you? Yeah, this is like the 80's. What worked then should work now.

[wlasowicz]

One issue I have not seen discussed is with all the expenses going up for owners of homes in The Villages such water sewer trash amenities' insurance etc. regardless whether you rent or do not rent out your home the cost of a non resident or Lifestyles pass $50. has stayed the same in the 9yrs that I have owned in The Villages. The renter/non resident particular in the high season creates a high usage on the facilitates that the amenities fees pay for. I think its time The Villages Corp. need to get off their high horse in trying to sell more homes and instead focus more on the current owners in trying to keep the cost of living in The Villages down

[biker1]

The Villages (aka The Developer) doesn’t control the prices of water, sewage, trash, insurance, amenities (after you buy your home), etc. Some of the prices are regulated, to some degree. The trash was negotiated by the CDDs. The amenities’ fee goes up by the CPI. I’m not sure how you think The Villages can help.

Originally Posted by wlasowicz

One issue I have not seen discussed is with all the expenses going up for owners of homes in The Villages such water sewer trash amenities' insurance etc. regardless whether you rent or do not rent out your home the cost of a non resident or Lifestyles pass $50. has stayed the same in the 9yrs that I have owned in The Villages. The renter/non resident particular in the high season creates a high usage on the facilitates that the amenities fees pay for. I think its time The Villages Corp. need to get off their high horse in trying to sell more homes and instead focus more on the current owners in trying to keep the cost of living in The Villages down

[HappyTraveler]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I think the people who would really be ****ed off are the ones who wouldn’t qualify to wear the bracelet because they’re trying to freeload. And of course they would call it “Big Brother” or “creepy” etc anything to discourage it from happening.

Incorrect, the comment was unnecessarily nasty and if you were implying - me - I am a homeowner in good standing at TV. Who also happens to value privacy and not being tracked.

Btw, the reason I mentioned the healthcare system issue in my prior comment was because what they wanted me to agree to was to allow my *personal health records* to be provided to "research". Astonishing. And when I asked several questions about it, I got evasive non-committal answers. I have little doubt they would be PAID for that information. I could write an essay on how messed-up all of that is.

Velvet - the world of today is not like the one we've understood most of our lives. It is not. The undue intrusions are constant. Did you know that Smart televisions have cameras in them? Some even have microphones. And those crazy Alexa and Siri devices are ON and recording the entire time? Yes, and yes. All that personal info is being captured and sold.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by wlasowicz

One issue I have not seen discussed is with all the expenses going up for owners of homes in The Villages such water sewer trash amenities' insurance etc. regardless whether you rent or do not rent out your home the cost of a non resident or Lifestyles pass $50. has stayed the same in the 9yrs that I have owned in The Villages. The renter/non resident particular in the high season creates a high usage on the facilitates that the amenities fees pay for. I think its time The Villages Corp. need to get off their high horse in trying to sell more homes and instead focus more on the current owners in trying to keep the cost of living in The Villages down

Originally Posted by biker1

The Villages (aka The Developer) doesn’t control the prices of water, sewage, trash, insurance, amenities, etc. Some of the prices are regulated, to some degree. The trash was negotiated by the CDDs. The amenities’ fee goes up by the CPI. I’m not sure how you think The Villages can help.

When in doubt and a lack of knowledge it’s always easy to blame “the developer.” Or in this case “The Villages Corp”.

[Pugchief]

How about everyone gets their ID barcode tattooed on their inner wrist?

Yes, that is [/sarcasm], but no more ludicrous than some of the other ideas in this thread.

Agree 100% enforcement is necessary, and agree trespassers should be prosecuted with the prosecution widely publicized. Good luck finding a way to do that without spending lots of $$$$.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GpaVader

While I don't want uninvited guests using our facilities, I really wish we could revisit this 3 county rule as it applies to things like clubs. I run a club and have a lot of people that would like to attend but can't because they don't have a Villages ID or guest pass. These are people that have something to contribute to the club and the community, not take anything away from other Villagers.

Is it possible to strike a balance on this? A Non Villager can play golf at the Championship courses....

If a person does NOT have a Villager ID they should NOT come to a club meeting. They should start their own club and meet somewhere outside of the Villages.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Nope. But I /am/ willing to see more Florida-specific perennials that can thrive as "wildflowers" in the flower beds, thus cutting down on the expense of switching them out every 3 months. That should cover the cost of 4 "roaming" employees in each district, whose job it is to travel in a loop and check IDs at each rec center and neighborhood pool along the route. You'd need these shifts: 1 from pool opening until 1pm. 1 from 10am til 3pm. One from noon til 5pm. One from 4pm til closing.

The entire Historic section would need just those 4 employees, going to Paradise, Hilltop, and Southside pools. They can also spend some time at the Rec area itself, making sure there aren't any unattended little kids using the sports equipment, and that kids under 13 aren't being allowed to use the outdoor exercise equipment as a playground by doting grandparents (Kids are not supposed to use them EVEN IF someone is watching them. The signs state as such).

That would be in addition to the existing rec center employees, who DO have to check IDs every so often at their rec center pools.

I agree with this post. Especially the part about using flowers or plants that are year around plants and do NOT need to be uprooted and replaced often. That is just a "stupid" waste of time and human resources expense.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by asianthree

The tread is mostly about how to identify a Registered Guest, or trespasser.

As far as tracking you Resident ID is a tracker with a bar code required at all events within TV

Instead of having a guest ID, a waterproof band could be printed for the same amount of money, requiring all guests to wear them while on property, for duration of stay.
So, even if they jumped in the pool, they would easily be identified. At this time no Guest ID is scanned, So Guest ID band would be a Cheap alternative to find any trespassers especially in the pool.

As far as Resident IDs, band would be a pain, and could Clash with Pickleball or golf outfit,.

However, an app to have your resident ID on your phone or device with not only be inexpensive but convenient.

Kets face it how many people do you know that doesn’t carry a phone.

They could develop an app with you ID that is geotagged. Community watch can drive into parking lot, see how many resident ID are at pool, compared to # using the pool

Country clubs use the technology already.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I doubt a waterproof band could be printed at the cost of 1/2 a sheet of paper (Guest IDs are printed two to a page). Besides that, my guests typically come for anywhere from a week to a month; will they be required to wear their waterproof band all 30 days?

Only if they wanted to use the amenities. I think a nice Villages green with the logo would be perfect.