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Old 11-29-2019, 08:45 AM
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Recycling does create jobs. Other than that we seem to be wasting our time. Kind of like global warming.
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Should be mandated because eventually the landfill we send our garbage to will fill up also. The recreation centers have never, in the five years that I have been here, recycled anything! That shows you what letting it be voluntary allows people to do, nothing!
People have moved here from areas that had more or less control over this issue and everyone thinks the old way is right.

I keep saying that more laws will not be effective.

Individual responsibility is the only answer and unfortunately not all people will do it.
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When we go to Oregon, they recycle everywhere - at the restaurants, in the airport, every place you can imagine. And they have separate containers in the public areas for paper, plastic, cans, glass, etc. Over time people are trained and it becomes a habit. To rely on the voluntary actions of people is just pure foolishness. Its like the seatbelt law. You always had a lot of people that refused to wear seatbelt, until it became law and they could get a ticket. But people do need to be educated to recycle properly.
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When we go to Oregon, they recycle everywhere - at the restaurants, in the airport, every place you can imagine. And they have separate containers in the public areas for paper, plastic, cans, glass, etc. Over time people are trained and it becomes a habit. To rely on the voluntary actions of people is just pure foolishness. Its like the seatbelt law. You always had a lot of people that refused to wear seatbelt, until it became law and they could get a ticket. But people do need to be educated to recycle properly.
Seatbelts save lives.

This is a sincere feeling and view on your part but the debate you just stated was on a different matter and not on saving lives. One does not relate to the other. Often when we overstate our views, we lose credibility.
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When we go to Oregon, they recycle everywhere - at the restaurants, in the airport, every place you can imagine. And they have separate containers in the public areas for paper, plastic, cans, glass, etc. Over time people are trained and it becomes a habit. To rely on the voluntary actions of people is just pure foolishness. Its like the seatbelt law. You always had a lot of people that refused to wear seatbelt, until it became law and they could get a ticket. But people do need to be educated to recycle properly.
No matter how well people are trained to segregate trash for recycling, if the is no really viable market , it is a horrible waste of funds .Stop the collections and re focus the funds on something than produces a better return. I don't have a suggestion about what this would be , but any minor improvement on current results would be positive. Stop the financially wasteful weekly collections.
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Old 11-29-2019, 12:37 PM
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No matter how well people are trained to segregate trash for recycling, if the is no really viable market , it is a horrible waste of funds .Stop the collections and re focus the funds on something than produces a better return. I don't have a suggestion about what this would be , but any minor improvement on current results would be positive. Stop the financially wasteful weekly collections.
I'm sorry but you are misinformed. There is money in recycling, not to mention the benefits to the environment in conserving energy and natural resources. Oregon is a model state for recycling. Perhaps Florida should model their recycling efforts after a program that works very well.
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Seatbelts save lives.

This is a sincere feeling and view on your part but the debate you just stated was on a different matter and not on saving lives. One does not relate to the other. Often when we overstate our views, we lose credibility.
Perhaps you don't grasp that saving the environment ultimately means saving lives.

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There are 5 trash cans at my postal station, trash cans all around and inside the rec centers, and trash cans at all the shopping centers, restaurants, and Government buildings. Apparently, none of the trash collected in these cans is recycled. It seems absurd that they send special trucks to everyone's house to pick up clear plastic bags for recycling every week.
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There are 5 trash cans at my postal station, trash cans all around and inside the rec centers, and trash cans at all the shopping centers, restaurants, and Government buildings. Apparently, none of the trash collected in these cans is recycled. It seems absurd that they send special trucks to everyone's house to pick up clear plastic bags for recycling every week.
For years, Villagers have requested that the junk mail at the postal centers be recycled. And the powers that be, will not agree to do that. I agree, it is hypocritical.
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Old 11-29-2019, 02:33 PM
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I'm sorry but you are misinformed. There is money in recycling, not to mention the benefits to the environment in conserving energy and natural resources. Oregon is a model state for recycling. Perhaps Florida should model their recycling efforts after a program that works very well.
Sorry mate, but you are flogging a dead horse.
To many believe throwing all the rubbish in a hole, covering it with some dirt, get some weeds and a few plants to grow is recycling and the way forward.
"Why change?" is the mantra, "we have always done it this way."
It's like sweeping dirt under the carpet, eventually it gets to much to hide.
The youngsters grasp the problem, but until the dinosaurs have gone, nothing will change!
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Perhaps you don't grasp that saving the environment ultimately means saving lives.
Again, you exaggerated. You put your own meaning on my words. There are very few people alive who do not realize the globe is warming and there is climate change and that we need to take care to reuse, recycle, repurpose, not to waste and to avoid use of one use plastics and to see that the ozone layer is not further damaged.

Just exactly WHAT can be done to slow it down or stop it without the entire population of the world doing the same thing... is the matter of debate. Using seat belts will and can and does save lives every day with every collision. Using seatbelts WORKS now and immediately. The other efforts head us the right direction but does not at this point save lives.
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When we go to Oregon, they recycle everywhere - at the restaurants, in the airport, every place you can imagine. And they have separate containers in the public areas for paper, plastic, cans, glass, etc. Over time people are trained and it becomes a habit. To rely on the voluntary actions of people is just pure foolishness. Its like the seatbelt law. You always had a lot of people that refused to wear seatbelt, until it became law and they could get a ticket. But people do need to be educated to recycle properly.
That's the thing right there. Has nothing to do with safety (or in the case of recycling, ecology). It has to do with reinforcing behavior until that behavior becomes habit. People will refuse to do something they don't want to do - UNTIL there are consequences for refusing. Eventually they will comply. And if they don't, the municipality's revenue will be increased by the fines they have to pay for refusing, and offset the added cost of sortation.
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That's the thing right there. Has nothing to do with safety (or in the case of recycling, ecology). It has to do with reinforcing behavior until that behavior becomes habit. People will refuse to do something they don't want to do - UNTIL there are consequences for refusing. Eventually they will comply. And if they don't, the municipality's revenue will be increased by the fines they have to pay for refusing, and offset the added cost of sortation.
It didn't work with marijuana.
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More news of disposing of nuclear waste.

Germany is closing all its nuclear power plants. Now it must find a place to bury the deadly waste for 1 million years
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The epitome of laziness: people can’t bring their junk mail home and recycle it there.

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