[DianaS]

While the construction continues at Hacienda Hills, something needs to be done about access to the Palms golf course. Morse is arguably the most busy road in The Villages. Forcing golf carts to cross Morse to get to and from the Palms course having to deal with both the north and southbound traffic, is a recipe for disaster. Not everyone observes the speed limit, and there is a curve just north of the area. Yesterday, while we waited for the northbound traffic in order to turn into the “country club”, a car came around that curve at top speed and had to slam on the brakes to avoid rear ending us.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by DianaS

While the construction continues at Hacienda Hills, something needs to be done about access to the Palms golf course. Morse is arguably the most busy road in The Villages. Forcing golf carts to cross Morse to get to and from the Palms course having to deal with both the north and southbound traffic, is a recipe for disaster. Not everyone observes the speed limit, and there is a curve just north of the area. Yesterday, while we waited for the northbound traffic in order to turn into the “country club”, a car came around that curve at top speed and had to slam on the brakes to avoid rear ending us.

Haven't been up that way, is the tunnel closed????

And not to be picky, but "a car came around that curve at top speed." What, 130 or 140 mph????

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by DianaS

something needs to be done about access to the Palms golf course

Why?

If you do not approve of the "access to the Palms golf course", then do not go there. YOU are the main person who cares about YOUR safety. Avoid situations that you think are dangerous.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Haven't been up that way, is the tunnel closed????

And not to be picky, but "a car came around that curve at top speed." What, 130 or 140 mph????

And downhill even faster.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Why?

If you do not approve of the "access to the Palms golf course", then do not go there. YOU are the main person who cares about YOUR safety. Avoid situations that you think are dangerous.

Well, maybe, but they should be able to play Palms without fear. That being said, everyone has a different fear threshold crossing a road. Haven't played there in 6 months, but have to leave parking lot and cross Morse to head southbound---never had a problem. And if the tunnel is open, then there's no problem at all approaching Hacienda from the north.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Why?

If you do not approve of the "access to the Palms golf course", then do not go there. YOU are the main person who cares about YOUR safety. Avoid situations that you think are dangerous.

Perhaps the OP was not aware of the construction mess and corresponding tunnel closure when he showed up for his t time. In addition, the OP’s post is a friendly warning to fellow Villagers so they don’t wind up in the same situation, and for that he should get thanked, not criticized?

Unfortunately, it was only a matter of time before this mess occurred once the Clubhouse and corresponding facilities were torn down at Hacienda Hills. It’s impossible to build residential housing at the epicenter of an operating golf facility without major disruptions and inconveniences. I feel very sorry for the poor fellow Villagers living in close proximity to this mess as they will be dealing with it for the foreseeable future.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Haven't been up that way, is the tunnel closed????

And not to be picky, but "a car came around that curve at top speed." What, 130 or 140 mph????

Yes, the tunnel is closed. Not sure why they felt they had to do that. I have played Hacienda (courses are in nice shape BTW) a few times in the last couple weeks, and I couldn't figure out why they couldn't work around that, but what do I know about these things? (trick quesion: I don't know squat about these things)

Originally Posted by VApeople

Why?

If you do not approve of the "access to the Palms golf course", then do not go there. YOU are the main person who cares about YOUR safety. Avoid situations that you think are dangerous.

brilliant well thought out answer. Why would anyone care about a dangerous situation where maybe someone else might get seriously injured?

What I didn't bother to notice was if there were any extra caution signs along Morse, warning of construction and potentially dangerous traffic patterns. There might be, and they may be occasionally ignored as always happens, but if there aren't, there definitely should be.

[collie1228]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Why?

If you do not approve of the "access to the Palms golf course", then do not go there. YOU are the main person who cares about YOUR safety. Avoid situations that you think are dangerous.

The OP is entirely correct about the situation at Hacienda. I live just up the road and see this situation virtually every day. I simply don't understand why someone thinks they should criticize the OP for stating an opinion on an opinion board. If you disagree, fine. But don't criticize someone for having an opinion on something that is affecting their everyday life.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by DianaS

While the construction continues at Hacienda Hills, something needs to be done about access to the Palms golf course. Morse is arguably the most busy road in The Villages. Forcing golf carts to cross Morse to get to and from the Palms course having to deal with both the north and southbound traffic, is a recipe for disaster. Not everyone observes the speed limit, and there is a curve just north of the area. Yesterday, while we waited for the northbound traffic in order to turn into the “country club”, a car came around that curve at top speed and had to slam on the brakes to avoid rear ending us.

Agree it is a dangerous situation. Seems all that would have been carefully thought out before any construction began. Been here many years now, Morse has always been a dangerous route for golf carts as far back as when the Villages was half the present size !

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Haven't been up that way, is the tunnel closed????

And not to be picky, but "a car came around that curve at top speed." What, 130 or 140 mph????

130, 140 mph ? We had a vehicle that was estimated to be doing 50-60 in a 30 zone, and WENT COMPLETELY THROUGH A SOLID CONCRETE WALL. I know there are "some", but few people own a car that would do that kind of speed. It "doesn't take much" as most police will tell you, to cause a fatal accident.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

130, 140 mph ? We had a vehicle that was estimated to be doing 50-60 in a 30 zone, and WENT COMPLETELY THROUGH A SOLID CONCRETE WALL. I know there are "some", but few people own a car that would do that kind of speed. It "doesn't take much" as most police will tell you, to cause a fatal accident.

You do understand that it was a facetious comment?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Agree it is a dangerous situation. Seems all that would have been carefully thought out before any construction began. Been here many years now, Morse has always been a dangerous route for golf carts as far back as when the Villages was half the present size !

Can anyone explain why turning across Morse at Hacienda is any more "dangerous" than those that have to turn left off Morse to get into their Village???

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Can anyone explain why turning across Morse at Hacienda is any more "dangerous" than those that have to turn left off Morse to get into their Village???

Every time I have to turn left off Morse or Buena Vista, I either have a stop light to make it easy or I am in a roundabout and I have the right-of-way and I can slowly make my turn and the cars going straight have to yield.

I have no idea what it is like "turning across Morse at Hacienda". It sounds somewhat difficult and that is why I advised the OP to stop doing.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Why would anyone care about a dangerous situation where maybe someone else might get seriously injured?

I have no idea.

I just advised the OP to avoid a "dangerous situation", but I don't really 'care' if she does it or not. That is her decision.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Can anyone explain why turning across Morse at Hacienda is any more "dangerous" than those that have to turn left off Morse to get into their Village???

good question...Maybe just a bit more traffic than normal because of the golf traffic, which is perhaps why they put a tunnel there anyway. As I understand it, The Palms nine was built several years after the Oaks and Lakes, so maybe the tunnel was there for some other reason. I don't know.
When I was there it seemed a little dicey, but then, Morse north of 466 is always a little dicey in my opinion.
I suspect the OP is engaging in some hyperbole when describing a car "at top speed" needing to "slam on the brakes" to avoid rear-ending a cart.